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Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-02-2021
(12-02-2021, 08:12 AM)capcom link Wrote:Whatever happened to East West Link?Comrade Andrews scuttled that project.....the other Guy has said he will build it if elected and ScoMo has promised some money to help him but I dont see it happening.
Andrews is too busy building his iron curtain regime to worry about building roads......his pandemic bill safe guards dont mean anything if he has the numbers in Parliament.
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - DJC - 12-02-2021
(12-02-2021, 08:12 AM)capcom link Wrote:Whatever happened to East West Link?
The electorate voted against it ... twice!
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - DJC - 12-02-2021
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As one of my American colleagues was fond of saying, "My heart bleeds purple panther p1ss."
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - DJC - 12-02-2021
(12-02-2021, 11:19 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Comrade Andrews scuttled that project.....the other Guy has said he will build it if elected and ScoMo has promised some money to help him but I dont see it happening.
Andrews is too busy building his iron curtain regime to worry about building roads......his pandemic bill safe guards dont mean anything if he has the numbers in Parliament.
You do realise that the North East Link Project is the biggest road building project ever undertaken in Victoria? And then there's the level crossing removal project Both progressing well despite COVID.
Even Dan Andrews realises that the Coalition will inevitably return to power in Victoria in the next decade or so. Why on earth would he pass legislation that would give the Coalition unfettered powers? The Pandemic Management (soon to be) Act establishes oversight by a Parliamentary committee with the Government having minority representation.
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - ElwoodBlues1 - 12-02-2021
(12-02-2021, 12:27 PM)DJC link Wrote:You do realise that the North East Link Project is the biggest road building project ever undertaken in Victoria? And then there's the level crossing removal project Both progressing well despite COVID.Nth East Link is 6.5 billion over budget, Westgate Tunnel is 3.3 Billion over budget.
Even Dan Andrews realises that the Coalition will inevitably return to power in Victoria in the next decade or so. Why on earth would he pass legislation that would give the Coalition unfettered powers? The Pandemic Management (soon to be) Act establishes oversight by a Parliamentary committee with the Government having minority representation.
That's a lot of hospitals....
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - LP - 12-02-2021
(12-02-2021, 02:00 PM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Nth East Link is 6.5 billion over budget, Westgate Tunnel is 3.3 Billion over budget.The new hospital is 300% over budget and rising!
That's a lot of hospitals....
Material and time cost $, materials up 240%, freight up 300%, lead times blow out 300%.
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - capcom - 12-02-2021
(12-02-2021, 11:19 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Comrade Andrews scuttled that project.....the other Guy has said he will build it if elected and ScoMo has promised some money to help him but I dont see it happening.
Andrews is too busy building his iron curtain regime to worry about building roads......his pandemic bill safe guards dont mean anything if he has the numbers in Parliament.
Only cost Victorians a billion dollars in breaking the contract !!
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - capcom - 12-02-2021
(12-02-2021, 03:09 PM)LP link Wrote:The new hospital is 300% over budget and rising!
Material and time cost $, materials up 240%, freight up 300%, lead times blow out 300%.
A "look over there" argument.
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - Mantis - 12-02-2021
Do not be fooled people that this bill is great. It might be better than the existing state of emergency. It might be a better or in reality, a watered down version of Dan Andrews insane bill he constructed. For more than 6 months. I don’t remember him getting input from the entire upper and lower house members to get a great plan in place. Over this entire period where he used specific solicitors to word the clauses to suit his needs of interpretation. It may be way better now and only because he almost lost it entirely once Adem Somyurek decided he wasn’t going to back it and create a tie in overall votes. He had to swing Rod Barton to get the numbers and only if half a dozen key clauses were changed, to get him to accept the bill. We really are not certain what other reasons changed the opinion of Rod. Money, benefits, etc.
Just sounds funny to me that everything was so urgent to get this bill in place soon. Sorry I forget one important note. State of emergency expires 15th of December. An obvious need to get an extension by special vote approval by other members in the upper house. Short term extension. I think 3 months maximum. We now have a fantastic bill. How wonderful. It can be activated and used under the title name to do exactly what Dan planed it to do. Pandemic management. Manage the pandemic situation of a virus. We have over 90% vaccinated people. This was the key Dan sold us to exit lockdowns and remove restrictions. Why was this bill not left to have further alterations in the new year of 2022? To get this future plan just the way it should be to protect people in terms of health and well-being and also not crossing boundaries of human rights. Omicron gets out into society. A new strain. Dan doesn’t need to consider any of his previous promises and advice from federal government in living with a virus. He now has a new concern he can act on. He will. He has a bill soon to be in legislation that allows him to activate a new form of pandemic emergency.
Obviously because he wants to show he is accountable to the safety of his fellow Victorians. Thank you Dan. How considerate. I trust you because you show real honesty and belief in my health. The same accountability you showed for the botched quarantine system? More than 800 people that died? You didn’t even answer questions in an inquiry with anything more than, “I don’t recall, I can’t remember, it wasn’t communicated to me who made the call”. “I will have to get back to you on this issue “. An inquiry where I am sure he selected the member to hold the investigation. Independent on not any level I have seen. I shouldn’t complain though. The fine for not wearing a mask has been reduced. From $20,000 to $10,000. That is awesome. Thanks Dan. What did you pay for not wearing a mask, when you were caught on CCTV? $200, $400? Did you explain how this committee were going to be assembled? Who chooses the panel? Did you forget that Dan? Don’t buy this bullsh1t people. Be very nervous. Don’t hate me. Just be ready for more trouble. I have contacted Dan 20 times in the last 4 months and had no response at all. None. Every other member of the upper house has at least had an assistant send me a response. A day or a week later. Nothing from the iron curtain. Nothing. Indicating a person that doesn’t listen to people who put him into power.
Re: Pandemic Management bill. Health and well-being Act 2021. - capcom - 12-02-2021
Well said [member=98]Mantis[/member] .. he's just a mendacious hard left head kicker.