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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - PaulP - 04-28-2021
(04-28-2021, 02:13 AM)shawny link Wrote:Their list appeared average but there 2021 form is far from average. Got within a few points of Sydney in Sydney when they were flying and should have beats the Hawks - lost by a point. Smashed Saints and beat Pies in the biggest H & A game of the year. With a few umpiring decisions had of gone there way they could have been 4-2!
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I'm nowhere near as confident as some on here - Their speed across the ground could really trouble us if there is no rain and being their home game they will get the crowd support as well.
If we don't bring close to our best they will get us.
Generally agree. We pipped them by 1 point last year, so they have some extra motivation.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - kruddler - 04-28-2021
They are coming off a shorter week having potential blockbuster fatigue after Anzac day. Get the jump on them early and shunt take the for if the had all game
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Pratty - 04-28-2021
(04-27-2021, 04:19 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:I understand your frustration with our side and your wanting to make changes.
But to me the side you have selected just exposes how weak our list is. For example, Pittonet is the one and only ruckman in your side. Who relieves him? If we use McGovern, who goes to CHF?
Setterfield and Dow are average at best with ball disposal and like O'Brien can go missing for periods of time during the game. If they were all to go missing at the same time as Cuningham then we would be in real trouble.
We are so short of KPPs and a ruckman that picking a side with what is available is just changing deck chairs.......
No I'd use McGovern and/or Kennedy as 2nd ruck/relief ruck. Cripps to play mostly forward to allow kids to be given time and exposed to the top level. All about opportunities ala Darcy Parish at Essendon.
McGovern, to me, does his best work either in defence or with a greater role. Ie, not as the 3rd or 4th banana. I think he needs added focus and responsibility as a focal point. I'd be going with more runners and crumbers so I'd certainly consider Owies or Honey. This happened with McGovern through injury at the start of last year and he was relief pinch hitting ruck. with the two main tall forwards as Gov and JSOS. I think one genuine key forward in McKay with a rotation of smalls and medium types - Kennedy, Silvagni, McGovern as an example. Casboult is getting in the way and offers zero right now. Hoping that changes with him though.
Who says we lose with picking the Cuninghams, Stockers, Dows, Setterfields, Honeys, Owies, etc? Other teams can do it.
We are falling off the pace and it's obvious.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - flyboy77 - 04-28-2021
Yes, i agree Brackets needs to be given more responsibility....
KPD role (3rd tall?), with a bit of rucking, bit of KPF.....put the heat on him to stand up for his team mates and the Club.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Baggers - 04-28-2021
Well said, Pratty and FB77. Giving Brackets more responsibility could well be the making of him.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-28-2021
Not sure Teague is going to want to experiment and tinker with a smaller lineup given his job is on the line.
The reality is the next three weeks are going to be crucial for the team and his career and I just dont see him messing with too many kids or cute positional changes unless ordered to....
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Baggers - 04-28-2021
(04-28-2021, 06:42 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Not sure Teague is going to want to experiment and tinker with a smaller lineup given his job is the on the line.
The reality is the next three weeks are going to be crucial for the team and his career and I just dont see him messing with too many kids or cute positional changes unless ordered to....
Bottom line is that the best CFC listed players in the VFL side were Setterfield, Dow and LOB. Those three with perhaps SOJ returning from injury would be about the only blokes being looked at for a senior call up IMHO. Willo was better but...
Owies had an ordinary game -- and in such a big win, that's not good for a small forward -- Philp is still getting game time after injury, Ramsay is probably the closest of the newbies, Honey is still learning and hot 'n cold, Durdin is a long way off but shows promise. And TDK, Carroll & Newman should be having their first runs in the VFL after injury.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Macca37 - 04-28-2021
(04-28-2021, 03:59 AM)Pratty link Wrote:No I'd use McGovern and/or Kennedy as 2nd ruck/relief ruck. Cripps to play mostly forward to allow kids to be given time and exposed to the top level. All about opportunities ala Darcy Parish at Essendon.
McGovern, to me, does his best work either in defence or with a greater role. Ie, not as the 3rd or 4th banana. I think he needs added focus and responsibility as a focal point. I'd be going with more runners and crumbers so I'd certainly consider Owies or Honey. This happened with McGovern through injury at the start of last year and he was relief pinch hitting ruck. with the two main tall forwards as Gov and JSOS. I think one genuine key forward in McKay with a rotation of smalls and medium types - Kennedy, Silvagni, McGovern as an example. Casboult is getting in the way and offers zero right now. Hoping that changes with him though.
Who says we lose with picking the Cuninghams, Stockers, Dows, Setterfields, Honeys, Owies, etc? Other teams can do it.
We are falling off the pace and it's obvious.
The MC may be wrong but it has been in no hurry to give extended playing time to the players you have mentioned.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - Lods - 04-28-2021
(04-28-2021, 03:03 AM)kruddler link Wrote:They are coming off a shorter week having potential blockbuster fatigue after Anzac day. Get the jump on them early and shunt take the for if the had all game
Yep
A bit of 'shock and awe' early on.
I just have a feeling they might be of a similar opinion...thinking that if they apply the pressure we'll wilt.
It may be a bit willing early on, until one side establishes superiority in the pressure stakes.
I think we should be able to best them in that area.
When we're 'on' we're very good.
We can't afford any of those four or five goal lapses though.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats - laj - 04-28-2021
(04-27-2021, 10:27 AM)Lods link Wrote:Arguably our most important game so far this season.We're due to kick a but for a week or two until we go back to old habits. Like what happened last year. Great one week, old habits the next until we 5hit out pants in a couple of last qtrs when finals were on the line.
We need to have our best possible match-ups out there.
We have to be pretty sure with players returning from injury, and if there's a doubt don't play them.
I don't think we should make too many changes.
These guys don't have to lift a lot from last week to win this game.
...and a win is pretty vital for a whole lot of reasons.