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Re: World Cup - 2019 - LP - 07-12-2019
(07-12-2019, 01:21 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:As was last night really any different - re different conditions?
Not at all, the problem as I see it was primarily the bowlers though not our batsmen.
The basics are missing. They can't manage the seam, they release pressure by bowling too many loose deliveries, and often not bowling to their field. It makes the outcome of games chaotic and unmanageable.
Some of the problems are without doubt coaching related, but like Carlton there is no simple fix, the problem isn't just the coach it's much bigger!
Re: World Cup - 2019 - flyboy77 - 07-12-2019
Re Maxwell, it is normally his mantra - if you are going to go at a ball, go hard at it!
It wasn't that great a ball....
Re: World Cup - 2019 - LP - 07-12-2019
(07-12-2019, 01:25 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Re Maxwell, it is normally his mantra - if you are going to go at a ball, go hard at it!
It wasn't that great a ball....
It clearly stuck in the wicket, regardless of the use of the knuckle ball they shouldn't jump like that, how it pans out is another coin toss scenario. Cummins got another one a few deliveries later and he was just lucky to survive, Smith got several which he just clean missed. Roy gets one from Starc it hits him in the guts and he bats on.
btw., I'm not complaining, I don't want cricket played on roads!
Re: World Cup - 2019 - laj - 07-12-2019
(07-12-2019, 01:15 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, as I mentioned most ODI's are decided by the toss, and winning the toss doesn't mean winning the game.
Have a look at India / NZ, I'm glad NZ won (Psst, don't tell anyone!)but India were robbed, the two sides batted in completely different conditions.
Yes! We batted under different conditions over the same day but that was our doing. Poms said they would've batted too. We may have lynched Finch at the time if he bowled but hindsight said it would've been the right decision. Poms would've had a much harder time batting first and us an easy time batting second. Difference was it was our own doing but that's the game.
Re: World Cup - 2019 - laj - 07-12-2019
(07-12-2019, 01:13 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:To a degree, but when 5 of your top 6 give that drivel, it's systemic imo.
Like CFC, you give yourself no chance when you pick your team poorly.
Handscomb's form was ordinary next to Wade's? Bad selection. His technique is nothing but a liability against good bowling. The gap between bat and pad when he played on was monstrous!
Stoinis - on the margin injury wise and zero form in the tournament - bad selection.
Agree the bowlers have been hit & miss. Cummins went right off.
English bowlers - they did their job, as they should. Good line and length, bit of movement early....
Did we win the toss and choose to bat? Perhaps another bad decision....
Cummins bowled well earlier in the Tournament when he had the new ball but once relegated to 1st change he struggled. Funnily enough, Starc bowled much better this tournament with the older ball and reverse swing than he did with the new ball. We went for bit with the new ball but was near unplayable with the older one.
Re: World Cup - 2019 - LP - 07-12-2019
I do think one issue needs to be addressed, the issue of "Umpire's Call".
I don't have the answer, but at the moment the implementation of that rule is deciding games. It's had the counter-intuitive effect of amplifying the umpires subjectivity.
Like AFL goal reviews, it's another example of a technology that isn't quite right, and it's changed the sport due to external pressures from media and gambling.
But I admit I am biased, I don't like any rules that cannot be implemented at lower levels of the sport, I want all players at all levels playing to the same set of conditions. Otherwise, just like AFL is to suburban football, International cricket quickly becomes a different sport to domestic cricket. I primarily blame gambling, it's the root driver of the big money and things like the IPL!
Re: World Cup - 2019 - JonHenry - 07-14-2019
Farcical finish
Match tied after a super over.
England awarded the WC due to hitting more boundaries.
Bizarre
Re: World Cup - 2019 - flyboy77 - 07-14-2019
Yes, simply a silly way to decide a championship.l
Re: World Cup - 2019 - Professer E - 07-14-2019
NZ lost fewer wickets in their fifty overs. Agreed, farcical.
Re: World Cup - 2019 - LP - 07-14-2019
The Kiwi's have a right to feel robbed today.
Not only the stats point to them bettering England, they also had the rub of the green go against them on those stupid "Umpire's Call" decisions!