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Re: Reset Rants - jeza - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 04:57 AM)LP link Wrote:He's been injured, and they are in no rush to cook the talent!
Hasn't had an injury as far as I know. Into his second year and played all bar 2 AFL games in the NEAFL. Could be vulnerable like Kennedy was.
Re: Reset Rants - LP - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 06:14 AM)jeza link Wrote:Hasn't had an injury as far as I know. Into his second year and played all bar 2 AFL games in the NEAFL. Could be vulnerable like Kennedy was.
I thought he missed about a month in total through injury last season, didn't he do a knee during his first full pre-season?
I don't know why he missed earlier this season.
Re: Reset Rants - kruddler - 05-01-2018
(04-30-2018, 05:11 AM)Raydan link Wrote:I just don't get the "rebuild has failed". We are still right in the middle of it. When you cook a casserole, you get the ingredients, you chop them up and put them in a pot together, that's where we are. Now we have to wait 45 mins to and hour to get the finished product. This is the next 2-3 seasons.
Problem is, this is the 3rd, 4th, 5th? 'rebuild, redevelopment, rennovation, rejuvination...'
This casserole was supposed to be for dinner......last week. By the time its cooked we'll be dead from malnutrition!
Re: Reset Rants - Shakin77 - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 08:23 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Problem is, this is the 3rd, 4th, 5th? 'rebuild, redevelopment, rennovation, rejuvination...'
This casserole was supposed to be for dinner......last week. By the time its cooked we'll be dead from malnutrition!
Hitting the draft and recruiting Daisy Thomas isn't a rebuild, restumping, reanything.
Re: Reset Rants - Lods - 05-01-2018
The Daisy Thomas who has been amongst our best this year and is still considered best 22...seems like pretty smart recruiting in hindsight
Re: Reset Rants - kruddler - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 08:34 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:Hitting the draft and recruiting Daisy Thomas isn't a rebuild, restumping, reanything.
It was an attempted reanimation.
*results may vary*
He is the least of our worries at present.
Re: Reset Rants - cookie2 - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 08:41 AM)Lods link Wrote:The Daisy Thomas who has been amongst our best this year and is still considered best 22...seems like pretty smart recruiting in hindsight
Atm Lods Daisy is very very important for us. Maybe a happy accident rather than inspired planning - who knows?
Re: Reset Rants - kruddler - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 09:34 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Atm Lods Daisy is very very important for us. Maybe a happy accident rather than inspired planning - who knows?
FWIW, i was in favour of getting daisy for the very reason people are happy with him now.
Effort, encouragement and a role model for the younger kids.
Obviously the injuries he's copped while at the club, in addition to what he already had has dampened his performance on the field somewhat....but his heart is very much still going strong.
People lament his inclusion because it coincided with Betts leaving.....but by his own admission, Betts needed a change of scenery and that change of scenery took his career to a new level. If Betts was still with us, i doubt he'd have improved to the level he has reached and thus, the daisy issue wouldn't be such a great one.
Re: Reset Rants - Shakin77 - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 04:55 AM)Lods link Wrote:Murphy wasn't supposed to be missing... and the addition of players like Kennedy and Lang and the drafting of Dow plus an expected improvement in SPS should have given us a close to break even....otherwise Gibbs was some sort of super player.
Now fates have conspired against us...but lets assume down the track, towards the end of the season, we have all these players fit and available.
We should have a better mid-field.
Docherty's the bigger loss....I suspect he would probably have spent some more time in the mid-field...but what we really miss is his setting up attacks from the half back. It would have been the key to the more attacking game plan.... and the fact we tried that without his contribution was brave but obviously not very successful.
Gibbs is a seriously good footballer. Grossly underated by these boards and Carlton Fans in general. Most likely from frustrations that he hadn't won 4 brownlows and led us to 6 premierships. Yeah he wasn't hard like Dusty Martin, but he was composed, clean, a great field kick and a bloody good footballer.
He is a player that can have 43 touches, 8 Marks, 10 tackles and kick 2 goals in a game.
You can't replace that with Kennedy (19 games), Lang (44) who couldn't crack the Cats Midfield, Dow (0) and SPS (21). It's like trying to replace Steve Smith with Renshaw, Burns, Handscomb and Travis Head. Yeah I know Gibbs isn't Steve Smith
The decison to trade Gibbs was always going to be a step back, to make up better in the long run. 6 months long run? No. 3-4 years.
Re: Reset Rants - Shakin77 - 05-01-2018
(05-01-2018, 08:41 AM)Lods link Wrote:The Daisy Thomas who has been amongst our best this year and is still considered best 22...seems like pretty smart recruiting in hindsight
No doubt. But "IF" you are rebuidling you don't pick him up and lose the Eddie Betts compensation pick we would have got. IE: Not a rebuild.