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Re: Next Captain - deags - 07-10-2018
He may well be, and that's why I put it in terms of his appearance. Not what you want your team mates seeing from their captain though.
Re: Next Captain - LP - 07-10-2018
(07-10-2018, 06:51 AM)deags link Wrote:He may well be, and that's why I put it in terms of his appearance. Not what you want your team mates seeing from their captain though.
he wouldn't be the first primo ball winner who was instructed to keep his powder dry for the next stoppage. Jobe Watson was probably the other most recent one who played like that, Diesel was also quite similar. Selwood also tends to be a bit that way!
If Cripps could distribute like those three we wouldn't give a rats ar5e!
Re: Next Captain - Thryleon - 07-11-2018
Theres an old saying.
A man has to know his limitations.
Cripps not chasing might simply be that hes at the end of his current burst on ground, and needs a breather, or it could simply be an energy conservation approach.
I think any trends regarding this aspect of anyones game this season is not worth looking at because we have players going down every week, and seem to be -20 on rotations at many of our matches.
Re: Next Captain - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-11-2018
(07-11-2018, 12:46 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Theres an old saying.
A man has to know his limitations.
Cripps not chasing might simply be that hes at the end of his current burst on ground, and needs a breather, or it could simply be an energy conservation approach.
I think any trends regarding this aspect of anyones game this season is not worth looking at because we have players going down every week, and seem to be -20 on rotations at many of our matches.
You have to ask yourself a question Thry...has Cripps ever chased?
Opposition teams always man Cripps at the stoppage then run off him and play wide knowing he wont go with them........he doesnt have the tank or speed to chase and in his case he gets excused like Selwood, Greg Williams etc...he is a champ at what he does well and we need him fit at every stoppage not buggered from providing some useless chase that he will never be successful at anyway.
Problem arises when that man on him at the stoppage who runs off him(may not be the same man) gets a lot of the ball or is damaging and you have to way up the pros and cons....you virtually have an opposition player unmanned for the game. Now if thats a good player like a Pendlebury/Bontempelli etc you can get into trouble....
Re: Next Captain - LP - 07-11-2018
(07-11-2018, 12:59 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:You have to ask yourself a question Thry...has Cripps ever chased?
Opposition teams always man Cripps at the stoppage then run off him and play wide knowing he wont go with them........he doesnt have the tank or speed to chase and in his case he gets excused like Selwood, Greg Williams etc...he is a champ at what he does well and we need him fit at every stoppage not buggered from providing some useless chase that he will never be successful at anyway.
Problem arises when that man on him at the stoppage gets a lot of the ball or is damaging and you have to way up the pros and cons....
It's true EB1, but if the team-mates of Selwood, Watson and Diesel had failed to cover for them they would get burnt as well!
To me it's says we are in self-preservation mode, a bunch of individuals, rather than working as a team.
It may be a strike against Cripps as a potential captain, but it's probably an even bigger issue for the coach!
Re: Next Captain - Thryleon - 07-11-2018
(07-11-2018, 12:59 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:You have to ask yourself a question Thry...has Cripps ever chased?
Opposition teams always man Cripps at the stoppage then run off him and play wide knowing he wont go with them........he doesnt have the tank or speed to chase and in his case he gets excused like Selwood, Greg Williams etc...he is a champ at what he does well and we need him fit at every stoppage not buggered from providing some useless chase that he will never be successful at anyway.
Problem arises when that man on him at the stoppage who runs off him(may not be the same man) gets a lot of the ball or is damaging and you have to way up the pros and cons....you virtually have an opposition player unmanned for the game. Now if thats a good player like a Pendlebury/Bontempelli etc you can get into trouble....
Im not sure EB1.
Its a headache for sure, but its one we seem to be negating by simply saying to Cripps, the best way to ensure you dont get run off is to cripple them by running forward.
Its a good approach. The bloke should have kicked about 20 odd goals from set shots inside 50 this season, but unfortunately has been as accurate as Casboult in forward 50.
Never mind. Its a problem today where we are playing blokes that give us feck all for half a match out of 4 quarters because they arent AFL ready.
Realistically we line up with a plus one behind the ball anyway, so we should have players able to pick up his man behind the contest free to help out when required.
What we see though, is that inexperience is resulting in an inability to compete for 4 quarters, and we seem to have a plan for having the ascendency and not having the momentum in our favour which is a plus for the coach.
Re: Next Captain - LP - 07-11-2018
In fairness to Cripps, I'm not sure his efforts are any worse than those of Taylor Walker.
On second thoughts, that might not be the best example going around! ;D
An aside, I heard mentioned on radio that Cripps is as fast across the ground as Jarryd Roundhead, I'm not sure where that comes from does Antoine have a source of figures?
Maybe they have the wrong Cripps, it's possible!
Re: Next Captain - Professer E - 07-11-2018
If Cripps stars nailing set shots he will be close to the most damaging mid in the business. Bugger chasing if he can add a direct offensive component to his game. Chasing should be left to racehorses, his job is inside.
Re: Next Captain - LP - 07-11-2018
(07-11-2018, 03:28 AM)Professer E link Wrote:If Cripps stars nailing set shots he will be close to the most damaging mid in the business. Bugger chasing if he can add a direct offensive component to his game. Chasing should be left to racehorses, his job is inside.
I agree.
He has to get that part of his game sorted though, once he does( I expect him to do so ) he won't have to chase because they'll be crap scared to leave him unattended!
I think the bigger worry is the apparent lack of willingness from some of our forwards to try and pick up the slack! Cripps jogging behind the opposition I can totally accept, FFS his team-mates should chair him to the next stoppage, but four or five of the others doing that I cannot!
I was hoping the inclusion of Pickett might mask some of this, given he has speed to burn, it didn't eventuate so lets hope the result is an aberration!
Re: Next Captain - PaulP - 07-31-2018
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/blues-great-robert-walls-says-marc-murphy-should-remain-as-carlton-captain/news-story/216f4d512a891d10d739e5556eee3b53