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Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - JonHenry - 05-07-2016
Casboult is great when he gets physical.
He hurts opposition players like no one else but doesn't do it enough. I don't think he has ever been reported?
When he dumps someone or crashes a pack they stay hit.
That marking yday was as good as you will see.
As for Docherty, hats off. Outstanding game, hard at it, uncompromising, attacking. Great half back footy.
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - Jeffy38 - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 01:28 PM)Baggers link Wrote:I guess the cold reality is that we've beaten 3 very ordinary sides …in succession... however, we've done it with an ordinary forward line and other obvious flaws. Provocatively, I doubt we could have or would have won all three under the previous coaching in our recent past. In fact, I'm bloody sure of it.
The most telling comment I have heard from any neutral observer of our club this year is, 'there's obviously buy in from the players' (re coach). To me, this is the most pleasing aspect of CFC 2016... even with an uneven list. This has not happened at our club since the late 1990s - Parko.
Very telling is how the new coaching group has turned our leaders into much better leaders. Our leaders now take responsibility in heat and give/show direction. Simmo played like a 23 yr old in that last qtr today. Seeing Gibbs lay hard tackles yet, also, display his finesse and hurt the opposition with his disposals and attitude proves 'buy in.'
Today we kicked our highest score for the year yet still keeping our opponents to a modest score.
We won today even with some very obvious passengers - Jammo, Walker, Plowman, Rowe, Jones and perhaps even Sumner. But even though these blokes didn't have great days they did pitch in at critical moments to give a positive contribution - we just needed more from them.
Meat has to be shielded from the media (and their neurotic obsession with his kicking). The obsession with his kicking spanks of 'needing something to say.' What was convincing today re Meat was how he loves a run in the ruck. What a quandary... Kreuz does better when rucking mostly but then there's this bloke Phillips who's coming along in leaps and bounds and probably should be our no. 1 ruckman. It's no accident that Meat was so good today when he was also able to ruck.
Jones - must understand that he only gets success when he works really hard, all of the time.
Everitt - most here know I am not a fan of Andre, in fact, a critic. To further explain, I am not a fan of any bloke who seems to have not bought into the team ethic; who is soft at very physical contests; who relies on talent alone (although this may see a goal or three) and seem to refuse to HURT for the team – Andre seems to be the sort of bloke who’ll do anything as long as he won’t break a finger-nail in the process. And because he actually has real talent and skills, and shows them on the ground, we'll want to believe he is the real deal. He aint.
Andre has very obvious talent but is better suited to a non-contact sport. So, if he stays in the seniors, others will have to cover for him at crucial times. Sorry, but he's psychologically soft and just not a 'team' person.
Reading some of these posts you'd think we'd lost.
That said Agree with most of that apart from sumner and plot an being passengers. Summers best game for the club. Plot an was quiet but quite happy for him not to be noticed.
Also, players were invested in the Wayne Britain game plan. Should never have got rid of him...
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 02:12 PM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Rowe wasn't a passenger.Yep
Good again.
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - cookie2 - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 02:12 PM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Rowe wasn't a passenger.
Good again.
X 2. Rowe was certainly no passenger. Anyway the CFC train "is not taking passengers!" I heard that as I was getting off the train at my station last night.
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 10:45 AM)laj link Wrote:Coaches aren't stupid. If a player with a big downside is getting touches, taking marks and kicking goals the coach will play him.They're job depends on results. The moment they're not doing that their downside will get them dropped very quickly as that will turn a coach's frustration to being pissed off.
I have no doubt you believe this as you've said it for a decade now.
However, like in the past, it is simply not that simple.
Results now, or results in 3 years.
If you overlook poor behaviour now, it will continue and spread and still be there in 3 years. Now, when wins are not the highest priority, is when you try and weed out the poor behaviour. That was it doesn't come back to bite you when you can least afford it too.
Be that with Everitt, Murphy or anyone else inbetween. Sort it out now!
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - BluePhantom - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 11:09 AM)Jack Burton link Wrote:Good win today. Would love to hear from some of the Gibbs-haters, he was just outstanding todayI wouldn't say I was a Gibbs hater more a Gibbs frustrater.
Can be classy, silky and smooth one moment then lack vigour and intent next.
The last few games he has shown what he is capable of and that is fantastic because when he is switched on he is a pleasure to watch and we win.
Way to step up Gibbsy.
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 11:14 PM)BluePhantom link Wrote:I wouldn't say I was a Gibbs hater more a Gibbs frustrater.I think 2014 showed what was capable of when he won the B&F. Even 2013 was good. When did he rip the pec muscle? Was it end of 2014 or early 2015? Clearly hampered by it, probably the body is right now and confidence is back. I remember an interview with him and how he said Dean Laidley worked very closely with him to help him stayed "switched on" for longer periods and how it was a concentration and confidence thing for him. Maybe its all coming back to him now. Lets hope.
Can be classy, silky and smooth one moment then lack vigour and intent next.
The last few games he has shown what he is capable of and that is fantastic because when he is switched on he is a pleasure to watch and we win.
Way to step up Gibbsy.
Go Blues
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - cimm1979 - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 10:24 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:X 2. Rowe was certainly no passenger. Anyway the CFC train "is not taking passengers!" I heard that as I was getting off the train at my station last night.
A guy on TC is calling him ROWEVAGNI!!!
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - crashlander - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 11:23 PM)cimm1979 link Wrote:A guy on TC is calling him ROWEVAGNI!!!That is going a bit too far. Rowe fumbles too much to be a Silvagni - type. But he is playing very well at the moment and is the key tall defender. His body work and concentration have been excellent, much improved over the first couple of weeks.
Re: Rd 7: Post Game Pleasure: Carlton vs Collingwood - cimm1979 - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 11:28 PM)crashlander link Wrote:That is going a bit too far. Rowe fumbles too much to be a Silvagni - type. But he is playing very well at the moment and is the key tall defender. His body work and concentration have been excellent, much improved over the first couple of weeks.
I believe his tongue is firmly in his cheek.
But Rowe has been good to very good three weeks in a row. Out bodying and out playing old hands like Pav and young guns like Moore and Daniher.
That people still want to bag him out say a lot about their ingrained insecurity about being wrong.