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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 04-16-2017
(04-16-2017, 12:32 PM)Mav link Wrote:Who would have thought a billionaire would side with the establishment? Don't forget he handed over control of the economy to a Goldman Sachs guy after saying he was going to go after Wall Street if he became President.
Our own country is headed up by an ex Goldman Sachs guy.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 04-16-2017
Exactly.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 04-18-2017
What's the lowdown on the 457 visa ban, it seems Trump like.
The justification is that Victoria with it's low 457 visa uptake has experienced higher jobs growth than other states. Do the numbers stack up?
Why now? Are there any Korean / North Korean nationals running or owning local agribusinesses and bringing in skilled 457 visa workers?
Agree or disagree, the timing is curious.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 04-18-2017
(04-18-2017, 06:05 AM)LP link Wrote:What's the lowdown on the 457 visa ban, it seems Trump like.
The justification is that Victoria with it's low 457 visa uptake has experienced higher jobs growth than other states. Do the numbers stack up?
Why now? Are there any Korean / North Korean nationals running or owning local agribusinesses and bringing in skilled 457 visa workers?
Agree or disagree, the timing is curious.
Im buggered if I know, but according to a mate of mine, the 457 visa workers are working for minimal cash just to get their foot in the door, and 3/4 of the time have limited ability to do the job. They then work for companies owned by a local ex pat, and are employed in greater numbers than the average skilled worker. As a result, they are able to get more shoddy work done, more quickly and more cheaply than the locals who are sticking with skilled people who can do the job to minimise headaches, resulting in lesser throughput.
I for one take any person whinging who can afford to own their own business with a grain of salt, but it sounds like a justifiable reason to review it.
After all, whats the point of offering a 457 visa for unskilled migrants to abuse??
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 04-18-2017
(04-18-2017, 06:29 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:After all, whats the point of offering a 457 visa for unskilled migrants to abuse??
I thought to get a 457 visa you had to be a skilled worker?
Wasn't one of the complaints Rinehart was using 457 visa workers to cut costs in highly skill employment areas like maintenance staff?
I watched a story in Statewide a few weeks back that described tomato pickers as skilled workers, that must take all of 5 minutes of training to get up to speed! So it all sounds like bunkum, so I have to ask why now?
I think the timing suggests the Feds are closing an avenue into the country in preparation for a conflict on the Korean Peninsula. Turnbull must have realised Australia could be crawling with VX2 terrorists, no more trains rides for a while I suggest!
I realise it's a long bow, but this seems to have come out of the blue!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 04-18-2017
(04-18-2017, 06:31 AM)LP link Wrote:I thought to get a 457 visa you had to be a skilled worker?
Wasn't one of the complaints Rinehart was using 457 visa workers to cut costs in highly skill employment areas like maintenance staff?
I watched a story in Statewide a few weeks back that described tomato pickers as skilled workers, that must take all of 5 minutes of training to get up to speed! So it all sounds like bunkum, so I have to ask why now?
I think the timing suggests the Feds are closing an avenue into the country in preparation for a conflict on the Korean Peninsula. Turnbull must have realised Australia could be crawling with VX2 terrorists, no more trains rides for a while I suggest!
I realise it's a long bow, but this seems to have come out of the blue!
To be eligible for a 457 visa, one had to have qualifications in a field where there was a shortage of qualified local workers. Apart from the abuse of the system by employers looking for cheap labour, most of the allegedly qualified workers couldn't pass Australian first year apprentice standards.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 04-18-2017
(04-18-2017, 11:07 AM)DJC link Wrote:To be eligible for a 457 visa, one had to have qualifications in a field where there was a shortage of qualified local workers. Apart from the abuse of the system by employers looking for cheap labour, most of the allegedly qualified workers couldn't pass Australian first year apprentice standards.
So Turnbull is upgrading the skill requirements. Perhaps he plans to use the new visa recipients to replace the 350 researchers with about 3500 years of accumulated experience the Abbott kiboshed from CSIRO a few years ago! all those bad climatologists, socialist scientists, Lamarckists and Darwinists be gone!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 04-18-2017
The main job banning 457 visas is designed to protect is that of PM.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Jeffy38 - 04-20-2017
(04-18-2017, 11:25 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:The main job banning 457 visas is designed to protect is that of PM.
Well said bill
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 04-20-2017
(04-20-2017, 09:54 AM)Jeffy38 link Wrote:Well said bill
Don't mention it Tony.
