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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 09-15-2020
Problem with that analysis is lock downs simply don't work.
That is the indisputable empirical evidence globally.
Irrespective of the efficacy of the contact and quarantining regime - which clearly either wasn't happening or was failing badly when Dopey finally realised the hotel quarantine 'system' had failed.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 09-15-2020
Worth a read.
https://mises.org/wire/evidence-keeps-piling-lockdowns-dont-work
All we need to do is (then and now):
1. Have an efficient, quick contact tracing system - not fax based (lunacy) - allowing us to identify & quarantine the 'infected' quickly.
2. Wash hands regularly.
3. Social distance sensibly.
4. Wear a mask if you're sick (or showing symptoms) and need to go out.
5. Oh and HCQ works! c19study.com (give it early and in the right dosage!)
Game over.
No need to shut down every bloody business in the State.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 09-15-2020
One thing is certain. Anthony Fauci is a dangerous idiot as far as HCQ goes.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - mateinone - 09-15-2020
Actually I completely disagree that lockdowns are not effective.
I don't disagree that there are alternative options as well that can be employed, such as mandatory social distancing and masks etc, I also believe that lockdowns come at a considerable cost and this needs to be weighed up against the impact of this costs, not just in financial terms.
But the lockdowns and the previous mandate on masks had very predictable impacts on the new infections seen each day. The data is clearly there to analyse, though I questions who is doing the governments analysis at times.
What worries me more, is that there is a time when lockdowns are the most effective way to get the virus to a manageable level so that allows the economy to restart, but also allows people to live a version of their life that at least resembles normal and there is a time where lockdowns are like cracking a egg with a sledgehammer. This government at the moment seems to have no concept on just how important reaching the stage where people have this semi normal life. Now it might be now as some say, it might be around the 15 cases a day mark that is closer to what I personally believe, but it is almost certainly not the <5 the government is now suggesting.
This number (less than 5 per day) is a number not seen in the state since May 2nd, that can't be the benchmark.
Some areas of regional Victoria have not seen cases in many months, there is no flexibility to the plan of the state government (imo).
I won't comment on hcq so much, other than to say, if this was a proven effective treatment, there would be a number of countries using it regularly. There are no doubt reasons this is not being recommended, so I won't get into any conspiracy theories on such a topic as that does not interest me.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 09-15-2020
Imo Dan is prolonging the lock down primarily because he has no faith in the current Vic health systems and procedures, esp contact tracing. It seems that big efforts are being made to improve the situation, albeit very belatedly, and he is playing for as much time as he can get to allow that.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 09-15-2020
(09-15-2020, 07:44 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Imo Dan is prolonging the lock down primarily because he has no faith in the current Vic health systems and procedures, esp contact tracing. It seems that big efforts are being made to improve the situation, albeit very belatedly, and he is playing for as much time as he can get to allow that.All the while crippling the economy and destroying livelihoods built over decades.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 09-15-2020
(09-15-2020, 08:49 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:All the while crippling the economy and destroying livelihoods built over decades.No doubt.
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - kruddler - 09-15-2020
(09-15-2020, 05:01 AM)mateinone link Wrote:I haven't posted here for a long time and I have littered my FB with stat after stat about this virus, to the stage where it is all I ever post about....I've noticed
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - mateinone - 09-15-2020
(09-15-2020, 10:34 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I've noticed
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 09-15-2020
I see former Carlton board member Marcus Clarke QC is representing some looney cafe owner who is trying to get Dan's cerfew overturned in the Vic Supreme Court. Good luck Marcus, you'll need it.