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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - DJC - 01-27-2024
(01-26-2024, 10:11 AM)LP link Wrote:I have lost interest so I haven't been following much, but I gather we've bowled poo again and the batting experiment has failed dismally.
The first thing we have to do is kick NSW out of test cricket, most of our shield sides with wipe the floor with the WI because they are actually interested!
Bowling was good, half of the batting was abysmal.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - DJC - 01-28-2024
The Windies have found a bowler in Shamar Joseph ...
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Gointocarlton - 01-28-2024
Cant win em all I spose.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - DJC - 01-28-2024
(01-28-2024, 07:56 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Cant win em all I spose.
Particularly when the selectors muck around with the batting order >
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - crashlander - 01-28-2024
When you don't take an opposition seriously enough, you can get the surprise of your life. Australian cricket wasn't ready for today and suffered accordingly.
Maybe they'll stop congratulating themselves on how good they are and doing the hard yards to make sure we're good.
I won't blame our changes in batsmen, both Green and Smith performed this innings. But Labuschagne had a summer to forget, Head has had one good test and Marsh is human. There hasn't been the consistency in the batting for a long time, and there damned well needs to be.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-28-2024
Day of surprises in world test cricket and good for the game.....England beat India at home after the home side led by 100 plus runs after the first innings, India have never lost in India after leading by 100 plus . The English bazballed the second innings to lead by around 200 and then debutant spinner Tom Hartley did a Shamar Joseph and took 7 for 62 and won them the game, this is after Hartley got hit for six off his first ball in the first innings and had the worst economy rate of a debutant bowler ever.
Australia were disappointing and while Smith played well and carried his bat and Green got a 40 I still dont like the batting order changes and think we need specialist openers and Smith back at No4 and only one of Marsh or Green in the team.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Mantis - 01-28-2024
You can’t always blame the result on the players that are selected by abilities. Their attitudes are wrong at critical moments. Stark trying the belt the leather off every ball was not a great choice. Smith playing timid at the other end like he was protecting his batting average doesn’t show real leadership. If this was Steve Waugh as the other Steve in this chase, and maybe a late bowling batsman with more composure it was an easy win for us. The bowling was exceptional. It was very good. From a guy with a busted up toe and in hospital the night before. We can’t expect to win purely on past reputation. We lack proper leadership with the bat. When bowlers are on the run with momentum you need a level head to steady the ship. Steve Smith didn’t do this. He didn’t take control of the game the way Stokes, Waugh, Ponting, Border, Kholi and others would have. Don’t even dare state he wasn’t in the same caliber as the guys I have mentioned. His reputation is above what he could really deliver in my opinion. One of the best with the bat as an average in the world needs to show more leadership. The bowling was great. The batting response was one of expecting to win on reputation. Don’t underestimate your opponent. You last win isn’t a measure of your ability. Your last loss is now a measure of your future weakness. Fix it and do it now. Not always by a change in cattle. Maybe by a change in attitude and leadership. Don’t forget what junior group beat you. Not Viv Richards. Not Joel Garner. Not Walsh, Patterson, Lara, Holding, Anderson, Hames, Golmes, Lloyd but a junior list that is on the rise. It might not be a bad way to reconstruct the Australian squad. Look at a few that haven’t had the opportunity to be in the squad as young fellas. Otherwise rebuild the mental leadership. This was not an oops. This was what I would see as a wake up call. Our reputation is higher than our actual ability. The squad needs to learn how to switch momentum. How to be composed. I won’t question our captain but I am not sure he is what is best for this squad. Only my opinion.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - Baggers - 01-28-2024
On the upside, cricket is better with the Windies up and about.
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - DJC - 01-28-2024
(01-28-2024, 12:13 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Day of surprises in world test cricket and good for the game.....England beat India at home after the home side led by 100 plus runs after the first innings, India have never lost in India after leading by 100 plus . The English bazballed the second innings to lead by around 200 and then debutant spinner Tom Hartley did a Shamar Joseph and took 7 for 62 and won them the game, this is after Hartley got hit for six off his first ball in the first innings and had the worst economy rate of a debutant bowler ever.
Australia were disappointing and while Smith played well and carried his bat and Green got a 40 I still dont like the batting order changes and think we need specialist openers and Smith back at No4 and only one of Marsh or Green in the team.
That would be the sensible thing to do EB but our selectors are rarely wrong. They’ll say that Smith and Green made runs and it wasn’t the team composition that cost us the game. No change!
The Windies will be inspired by a win that no-one saw coming. They could be a more difficult opposition in the last Test.
An amazing result in India. Hartley was stiff not to get man of the match over Pope. Both were outstanding … but can they back up?
Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-28-2024
(01-28-2024, 09:46 PM)DJC link Wrote:That would be the sensible thing to do EB but our selectors are rarely wrong. They’ll say that Smith and Green made runs and it wasn’t the team composition that cost us the game. No change!DJ , this was the last test and we retain the Sir Frank Worrell trophy..weird fixturing imo playing only two tests.South Africa and India only played in a two test series that was also tied one all. Agree on Hartley being man of the match.
The Windies will be inspired by a win that no-one saw coming. They could be a more difficult opposition in the last Test.
An amazing result in India. Hartley was stiff not to get man of the match over Pope. Both were outstanding … but can they back up?
Windies doing well is great for the game even though we lost and hopefully inspires some more kids like Joseph to take up the game and make the Windies a force again.