+- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com)
+-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html)
+--- Thread: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne (/thread-6485.html)
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 05-08-2024
(05-08-2024, 09:32 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Points for:
Carlton: 3rd
Melbourne: 10th
Points against:
Carlton: 15th
Melbourne: 1st
How are we 'horribly out of form' while they are in good form ??
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - Professer E - 05-08-2024
Because Goodwin can sell ice to eskimos
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - Baggers - 05-08-2024
(05-08-2024, 10:17 PM)kruddler link Wrote:How are we 'horribly out of form' while they are in good form ??
Because they are winning (last 4 games) and we've lost 3 of our last 4. I'm not a huge stats fan, my favourite stat is the scoreboard.
This'll be a fascinating contest. Looking forward to it. Something of a 'line in the sand' game for us.
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - Baggers - 05-08-2024
(05-08-2024, 08:25 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Good changes.
I would've liked to keep Cunners in the side, but i can't complain about the ins.
The outs are good too.
Sub to come from....
Durdin, Boyd, Hewett, Cerra, Cottrell.
I'd go Durdin personally.
Yep, you'd reckon Durdin... but I wonder if it'll be Hewett or Cerra...
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - DJC - 05-08-2024
(05-08-2024, 10:17 PM)kruddler link Wrote:How are we 'horribly out of form' while they are in good form ??
I’m not sure that we’re out of form but we’re not playing our best footy for four quarters.
Of the teams in the eight, Melbourne’s defence is the most miserly. Our defence has conceded the most points, about 23 more than Melbourne each game.
We have kicked the third highest point score of the teams in the eight. Melbourne is one three teams in the eight that have scored around 650 points. That’s around 15 points per game less than us.
Part of that comes down to gamestyle but Melbourne’s defence is working much better than our unsettled, injury depleted defence. At the other end of the ground, our very inefficient forward line is scoring more heavily than Melbourne’s cobbled together forward line that relies heavily on small and medium forwards.
Our defence worked much better with McGovern in the mix (including when Weitering was out). Given Melbourne’s lack of forward line firepower, can a returning McGovern improve our ability to generate scores from defence?
Our forwards will be under the pump with Melbourne’s in form defenders. However, the addition of De Koning and the return of Martin should make for a more potent forward line that restricts the ability of Melbourne’s defenders to zone off and double team.
We haven’t been able to apply scoreboard pressure and, unlike the second half of last season, our ability to win close games isn’t as good. If we’re going to win this one, we have start well and build a decent lead to keep Melbourne’s defence under pressure.
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - WASurfer - 05-09-2024
My bad Rocky....yeah missed the obvious one in Saad. Hopefully he's only a few more weeks away but we need to win a couple before then otherwise we might be down the ladder a bit and just fighting to make the 8.
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - WASurfer - 05-09-2024
I thought Ollie Hollands for the sub tonight. Cottrell might get the job on Langdon on one wing with Acres on the other.
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - Baggers - 05-09-2024
(05-09-2024, 12:28 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:I thought Ollie Hollands for the sub tonight. Cottrell might get the job on Langdon on one wing with Acres on the other.
Logical, but he's named in the starting 22.
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 05-09-2024
(05-08-2024, 11:10 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Because they are winning (last 4 games) and we've lost 3 of our last 4. I'm not a huge stats fan, my favourite stat is the scoreboard.Time to get rolling like we did second half of last year. Fear no one and mow them down one by one.
This'll be a fascinating contest. Looking forward to it. Something of a 'line in the sand' game for us.
Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne - LP - 05-09-2024
(05-09-2024, 01:45 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Time to get rolling like we did second half of last year. Fear no one and mow them down one by one.I think this is basically true, but I'd have another spin on it.
Fearing opponents is OK as it is a sign of respect, a little bit of fear is OK in this regard because it promotes thoroughness. But have confidence and trust in yourself, so that you remove hesitation and doubt.
We look slow at times because we hesitate, we have to trust each other and act on trust, and if someone isn't acting on that trust and respecting the trust the team has for them that becomes a job for coaches. To me that is what Voss implies when he talks about a collective.
(SciFi nerds will know of The Borg and the concept of a Hive Mind acting as one.)