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Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Milhanna13 - 03-18-2024
One thing i did notice, was that our handball game looked fantastic (linking in chains, and good exits from the contest), but our field kicking was woeful
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 03-18-2024
(03-18-2024, 02:34 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:One thing i did notice, was that our handball game looked fantastic (linking in chains, and good exits from the contest), but our field kicking was woeful
I don't know if there's a statistic for handball chains but we certainly used them to good effect. It's becoming a feature of modern footy and I think we're leading the way.
I thought that our field kicking was OK, and better than Richmond's, but we had several players whose kicking was really off, eg Saad, Williams, Curnow, Owies, Fantasia. The other side of the coin is that McGovern, Young, Kemp, Newman, Cerra, Cuningham and Fogarty used the ball really well.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-18-2024
I think Boyd's kicking has let him down at the start of this season, he has been horribly inconsistent, but then retrospectively we hear that we've been on a heavy training load and that means tired legs. Saad has been similar, but he's on Ramadan, I can't recall if it affected him previously.
But in fairness as defenders they wear the heat for errors, a forward can have worse efficiency and seem OK.
Fantasia however is going at 45%, I've no idea why, Doc with one bung leg for half a game went at 60%.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-18-2024
(03-18-2024, 05:05 AM)LP link Wrote:I think Boyd's kicking has let him down at the start of this season, he has been horribly inconsistent, but then retrospectively we hear that we've been on a heavy training load and that means tired legs. Saad has been similar, but he's on Ramadan, I can't recall if it affected him previously.
But in fairness as defenders they wear the heat for errors, a forward can have worse efficiency and seem OK.
Fantasia however is going at 45%, I've no idea why, Doc with one bung leg for half a game went at 60%.
You need to look hand in hand with contested/unconctested possessions.
You can go at 75% DE when most of your possessions are uncontested and that is terrible.
You can go at 75% DE when most of your possessions are contested and that is superhuman.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-18-2024
Fantasia's Kicking Efficiency% is 16%, just 1 good kick from 9 so far this season.
His CP(10)/UP(9) ratio is effectively 1:1
At least we know if his DE% was 45%, and his KE% was 16%, he must have hit a few handball targets! :o
The more I look, the worse it gets, so I've stopped looking.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - shawny - 03-18-2024
(03-18-2024, 05:36 AM)LP link Wrote:Fantasia's Kicking Efficiency% is 16%, just 1 good kick from 9 so far this season.
His CP(10)/UP(9) ratio is effectively 1:1
At least we know if his DE% was 45%, and his KE% was 16%, he must have hit a few handball targets! :o
The more I look, the worse it gets, so I've stopped looking.
I cant see for the life of me what the purpose was of getting this bloke into the club. He got gifted the first 2 games and showed SFA.
We have coverage in that area and even if he stayed on the park and played near his best I still prefer Motlop and Durdin over him.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-18-2024
(03-18-2024, 07:37 AM)shawny link Wrote:I cant see for the life of me what the purpose was of getting this bloke into the club. He got gifted the first 2 games and showed SFA.
We have coverage in that area and even if he stayed on the park and played near his best I still prefer Motlop and Durdin over him.
Agree.
Called it early that we didn't need extra small forwards, rather taller KPPs, either backs or forwards.
But it was a 'free hit'. So be it.
I would've preferred a 'free hit' at something we needed, but i'm not in charge.
He better find some form come seasons end and produce in finals.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - pinot - 03-18-2024
Fantasia is in good physical shape which was the challenge just needs to find some form.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - Gointocarlton - 03-18-2024
(03-18-2024, 07:37 AM)shawny link Wrote:I cant see for the life of me what the purpose was of getting this bloke into the club. He got gifted the first 2 games and showed SFA.Moneyball pick, came for free, can fill a role when needed.
We have coverage in that area and even if he stayed on the park and played near his best I still prefer Motlop and Durdin over him.
Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 03-18-2024
(03-18-2024, 08:30 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Moneyball pick, came for free, can fill a role when needed.
And for all of his poor kicking, he managed to deliver the ball lace out for two goal assists against Brisbane.
I watched a replay of the Richmond game today and it was interesting to see how much time Fantasia spent in defence. He did miss a few targets by hand, but was in heavy traffic and/or being slung/tackled.
I don’t think he has been anywhere near as bad as some folk like to think … particularly when he cost us nothing and provides cover for our first choice small forwards.