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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Lods - 06-06-2021
The playing value of Eddie Betts has been questioned a bit especially earlier in the season.
He's playing some pretty good football at the moment.
He is one whose value is good, and place in the side is more than merited.
But I've also noticed that at breaks in play (after goals etc) he's very animated with the other players, talking, explaining, instructing...whatever it is, it's like having an assistant coach on the field.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - capcom - 06-06-2021
Whether we realise it or not, Betts is future coaching material. Far flung? Nope. He has been exceptional in that regard [member=906]Lods[/member]
Sharp, clever and it riles me in the extreme when some people with no clue don't see that on field contribution.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 06-07-2021
Betts worth is primarily off the field, on field his intermittent great games are a bonus, but they might not help us win much.
Owies, Fisher, Fogarty, Williams, Martin, will all be better players because of Betts.
It's those players becoming better, delivering options inside F50, that will contribute to wins, not a sole reliance on Betts.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - capcom - 06-07-2021
The point I was making is that there were some duckheads that didn't even want him back !!.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-07-2021
(06-07-2021, 01:03 AM)capcom link Wrote:The point I was making is that there were some duckheads that didn't even want him back !!.His value on and off the field is as clear as the nose on your face, its nonsense to think other wise. Ironically, we need a cool headed veteren in the back line at the minute. I never thought that would be the case given how the defence performed before this year.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 06-07-2021
(06-07-2021, 01:03 AM)capcom date Wrote:The point I was making is that there were some duckheads that didn't even want him back !!.I think some of us warned he wasn't going to be a win/loss panacea, and here we are 14th after 12 rounds, regardless of Betts good games.
Betts is not what we need on field, he can help us win by helping those around him, but if he's trying to kick bags of goals to win it off his own boot it gives us nothing.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - blueboys_1 - 06-07-2021
(06-06-2021, 09:49 PM)LP link Wrote:I think it's a headspace issue, the plight of the downtrodden. It seems so. A lot of posters have mentioned this in the past and it fits what we are seeing. I remember been one of the first clubs to have a head space guy working at the club. Rudy Webster or something like that.
We need someone with some Peaky Blinders type brutality to lift us out of the gutter, playing nice doesn't help in the AFL it just leaves you the victim of bastards! I nominate Krudd! He's the most positive on this site
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-07-2021
Eddie was a marketing tool and small forward coach plus incentive for Martin and Williams to join us and play with a mentor.
Goal kicking wise he probably hasn't been as good as a freebie like Matthew Wright but it's the other stuff I mentioned that got him his contract IMHO.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - blueboys_1 - 06-07-2021
(06-06-2021, 11:31 PM)Lods link Wrote:The playing value of Eddie Betts has been questioned a bit especially earlier in the season.
He's playing some pretty good football at the moment.
He is one whose value is good, and place in the side is more than merited.
But I've also noticed that at breaks in play (after goals etc) he's very animated with the other players, talking, explaining, instructing...whatever it is, it's like having an assistant coach on the field.
Have to agree with this. He makes something from nothing and is deadly in the pockets. Some straight kicking earlier in the year and he have a few more goals, currently second behind Harry with 17:13.
He could go on next year if he keeps up the current form he is in.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - blueboys_1 - 06-07-2021
(06-06-2021, 11:31 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Start at the defense..... We have defenders who won't, can't anymore and are no good at defending. Ed Curnow was sent down back to plug holes.
Stocker ended up on Ryan and it was an epic fail. Saad won't play hard defense, Docherty has lost his mojo down there and Williams is a failed midfield applicant who has been forced down back to justify his big pay packet.
Ryan should have had a more senior defender on him and not a kid... We can't play three small mid size defenders who want to chase the ball and not defend.
Teague has to fix the defense or he will lose his job eventually.
Wrong match up. Love Stocker he throws himself at the ball, no fear and does not take a backward step. Saw him do it a couple of times yesterday. This is the player we need in the midfield not the back pocket on a guy who can jump on Gawn's head from side on. To mobile and experienced for a guy who has only 10 games of AFL experience.