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Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-25-2019
Its when and where you kick your goals and the state of the game, Levi has missed too many goals that matter.
I dont care if he kicks six straight in a game where we win by 10 goals and had control of the game for 4 quarters(fictitious I know), its those soul destroying games where he gets that 30m shot in front and misses when its vital for momentum and impact on the result.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - PaulP - 04-25-2019
Comparing Buddy to Levi - too funny. I had to check my calendar to see if it was still the off season, when absurd discussions and comparisons abound. And I'm not a Levi hater.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - LP - 04-25-2019
(04-25-2019, 02:13 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Its when and where you kick your goals and the state of the game, Levi has missed too many goals that matter.
I dont care if he kicks six straight in a game where we win by 10 goals and had control of the game for 4 quarters(fictitious I know), its those soul destroying games where he gets that 30m shot in front and misses when its vital for momentum and impact on the result.
In fairness to Levi he kicks some team lifting goals as well, it's just the ratio of soul-breakers to heart-lifters is all wrong.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - jeza - 04-25-2019
(04-25-2019, 09:23 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Comparing Buddy to Levi - too funny. I had to check my calendar to see if it was still the off season, when absurd discussions and comparisons abound. And I'm not a Levi hater.
Just mentioning how Casboult's goal kicking accuracy is pretty normal over the course of his career. Nobody seems to keen on this point however. Nobody is saying he's comparable to Buddy as a footballer.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - Professer E - 04-25-2019
Dangerfield is a rank kick and makes a lot of bad decisions with ball in hand, but many people reckon he's in the top three players in the league.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - LP - 04-25-2019
(04-25-2019, 11:15 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Dangerfield is a rank kick and makes a lot of bad decisions with ball in hand, but many people reckon he's in the top three players in the league.
Dangerfield bombs the ball long like Robinson, in fact once he gets hold of the ball Dangerfield disposes of it a lot like Mitch Robinson did when he was at Carlton. The main difference between the two is the way Dangerfield works and competes to win the football, he is an average ball user compared to someone like Ablett Jnr, but if you include disposal efficiency I'm afraid Dangerfield is ordinary at best. He gets away with a lot because he usually send the ball 60m forward out of the trouble zone, if some kid did that the scribes would beat up on them!
But coaches don't seem to rate that, which is ironic because coaches always tell you they can turn an athlete into a footballer. Yet they can't rate ball use highly, proof is when you see them giving McKay top votes in the AFLCA despite a couple of horrible misses.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - kruddler - 04-25-2019
(04-25-2019, 10:53 PM)jeza link Wrote:Just mentioning how Casboult's goal kicking accuracy is pretty normal over the course of his career. Nobody seems to keen on this point however. Nobody is saying he's comparable to Buddy as a footballer.
Comparing to Buddy as how he is normal, is like comparing success with St. Kilda.
Buddy Franklin sits in 2nd place, on the behinds kicked in a game by a single player record with 11.
He kicked 2.11 against the dogs in 2007.
No, it wasn't weather related as it was played at the docklands.
Taking out his 2.11 the rest of the players managed a combined 30.12.
Buddy has kicked 6 behinds or more in a game on 16 occassions.
Yes, he gets a lot of shots on goal, but only 2 of those 16 occassions did he kick more goals than behinds.
Of people to compare Casboult to in order to get a 'normal/average' comparison with, Buddy is one of the worst.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - LP - 04-25-2019
(04-25-2019, 11:25 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Comparing to Buddy as how he is normal, is like comparing success with St. Kilda.
Buddy Franklin sits in 2nd place, on the behinds kicked in a game by a single player record with 11.
He kicked 2.11 against the dogs in 2007.
No, it wasn't weather related as it was played at the docklands.
Taking out his 2.11 the rest of the players managed a combined 30.12.
Buddy has kicked 6 behinds or more in a game on 16 occassions.
Yes, he gets a lot of shots on goal, but only 2 of those 16 occassions did he kick more goals than behinds.
Of people to compare Casboult to in order to get a 'normal/average' comparison with, Buddy is one of the worst.
Yes, Buddy's value is winning the football, he wins more contests than he loses and he is a contested football monster. If Levi won the one on one contests like Buddy we wouldn't give a rats ar5e about the kicking problems. But claiming he statistically kicks it like Buddy is very deceptive, Franklin can hit a 60m away team-mate on the run lace out after beating multiple opponents at ground level.
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - DJC - 04-25-2019
(04-25-2019, 11:15 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Dangerfield is a rank kick and makes a lot of bad decisions with ball in hand, but many people reckon he's in the top three players in the league.
His good far outweighs his bad and it’s overlooked.
If Levi kicked as many goals as Buddy (I wish!), his goal kicking accuracy wouldn’t be an issue. Although Fev’s poster from 30 metres out against the Hawks is indelibly etched in my memory ????
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood - LP - 04-25-2019
(04-25-2019, 11:29 PM)DJC link Wrote:Although Fev’s poster from 30 metres out against the Hawks is indelibly etched in my memory ????
Fev's stand out because of how rare it is, Levi has had so many they don't stand out at all! ;D
What would Fev's ratio of Gooduns to Baduns be, he's probably one of the best KPP kicks for goal in the last 30 years? Right up there in my opinion with Dunstall and Lockett, who are probably the best KPF kicks I've ever seen!
It's like defining Sticks by that miss!
In general of all players I'd have to say Wayne Johnston was the best big moment goal kicker I've ever seen, but Fev wasn't far behind.