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Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - blue4life - 06-17-2018
(06-17-2018, 12:12 AM)Lods link Wrote:For that reason we don't have the luxury of bringing him back through the VFL.
If he's fit he has to play...That doesn't mean he's match ready after a five week break.
He's been OK for us this year before he was injured.
Sadly though he'll never be better than OK, and that's on his good days.
It isn't his fault and I have no beef against him or any other Carlton player, but it's symptomatic of our malaise.
Too many OK players, far too many.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - Lods - 06-17-2018
(06-17-2018, 01:03 AM)blue4life link Wrote:Sadly though he'll never be better than OK, and that's on his good days.
It isn't his fault and I have no beef against him or any other Carlton player, but it's symptomatic of our malaise.
Too many OK players, far too many.
That's quite right...I think a lot of Casboult's problem has been some folk expected him to be Fevola and he's just a fair, average player.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - laj - 06-17-2018
(06-16-2018, 11:58 PM)blue4life link Wrote:He's now a 100 game, 7 year player, the sort of player who needs to stand up when the team is under pressure or being badly beaten.
It's high time we stopped making excuses for him.
He's a reasonable player but he's no a first round pick either. He's a pick 44 in a rookie draft. A KPF in a rookie draft is usually not going to be a side to hold a side together. He's a 2nd forward on ability and only if he also rucks. We've been lucky to have him as a bridge between losing Waite/Henderson and waiting for the next level to develop.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - laj - 06-17-2018
Watching Ed Curnow on the Footy Show. Seems we tried to play that offensive, zoning brand. Why did F dopey Bolton play that game plan in a game that was very winnable. Is he an idiot? It's too far advanced for us, the players get totally lost, and we fall apart. We can't marry the offensive and defensive plan and we get humiliated time and again when we try to. Idiot Bolton!
Our strength right now is the congested, in-close defensive plan. That's the way footy's played these days anyway by most clubs, so play it that way. We play it well, relatively at least, and are always very competitive. Play the other plan and we're plainly hopeless and lost. Why are people, who are supposed to be experts so F dumb.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - blue4life - 06-17-2018
(06-17-2018, 01:29 AM)Lods link Wrote:That's quite right...I think a lot of Casboult's problem has been some folk expected him to be Fevola and he's just a fair, average player.
And our team is full of them, apart from Cripps none of yesterday's 22 would be certain of a game in a top side and 6 or 8 of them wouldn't even be on West Coast or Sydney's senior list, and I reckon I'm being generous.
We aren't on the bottom with a percentage in the low 60's by some sort of fluke.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-17-2018
Boltons' presser was full of spin and little else......Freo had a younger team on the park, it was lack of effort coupled with a poor game plan.
We need a close contested game where it aint pretty and we can scrounge and bite our way over the line, you look at the first half and there are Freo players loose every where. Tuckers goal was about as easy as it gets, zero pressure and its clear our defense dont understand the game plan given where our players were standing in relation to the ball.
Bolton needs to lose the spin, youth excuses and lift his game in the coaches box and start reacting earlier than he does......I dont care if we play 8 men back but do something....12 goals straight and in the manner they scored isnt acceptable and he needs to take responsibility and not talk crap about culture at half time and 40 new players etc....effort and planning was what was lacking IMO in the main..
If Barker and others are not up to providing Bolton with the right info to act then they have to go........
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - LP - 06-17-2018
(06-17-2018, 02:24 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Boltons' presser was full of spin and little else......Freo had a younger team on the park, it was lack of effort coupled with a poor game plan.
We need a close contested game where it aint pretty and we can scrounge and bite our way over the line, you look at the first half and there are Freo players loose every where. Tuckers goal was about as easy as it gets, zero pressure and its clear our defense dont understand the game plan given where our players were standing in relation to the ball.
Bolton needs to lose the spin, youth excuses and lift his game in the coaches box and start reacting earlier than he does......I dont care if we play 8 men back but do something....12 goals straight and in the manner they scored isnt acceptable and he needs to take responsibility and not talk crap about culture at half time and 40 new players etc....effort and planning was what was lacking IMO in the main..
If Barker and others are not up to providing Bolton with the right info to act then they have to go........
BB is being very poorly advised if he is being advised at all, but as I've mentioned before on media issues around our players, contracts, injuries, the tribunal and the like our club is very poorly run in the media! We are dead-set amateurs, I often bag the Pudding Face Twins, but they A-Graders at deflection and deception!
I'm afraid I've come to the same conclusion regarding Barker, he's had too long, even though our list is newly assembled the player development results are not there to support re-contracting.
In a decade the only clear player improvement we've seen(potentially) is Casboult's kicking under Rocca. There is hardly a player on our list that looks better now than when they arrived, most seem to be going backwards!
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - laj - 06-17-2018
(06-17-2018, 02:24 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Boltons' presser was full of spin and little else......Freo had a younger team on the park, it was lack of effort coupled with a poor game plan.
We need a close contested game where it aint pretty and we can scrounge and bite our way over the line, you look at the first half and there are Freo players loose every where. Tuckers goal was about as easy as it gets, zero pressure and its clear our defense dont understand the game plan given where our players were standing in relation to the ball.
Bolton needs to lose the spin, youth excuses and lift his game in the coaches box and start reacting earlier than he does......I dont care if we play 8 men back but do something....12 goals straight and in the manner they scored isnt acceptable and he needs to take responsibility and not talk crap about culture at half time and 40 new players etc....effort and planning was what was lacking IMO in the main..
If Barker and others are not up to providing Bolton with the right info to act then they have to go........
I just want a game plan that plays to our strengths, especially in winnable games. If he can't do that then he can F off. Wonder if the job is beyond him at his stage of experience. My personal preference as coach is in the box, David Teague.
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - LP - 06-17-2018
(06-17-2018, 02:31 AM)laj link Wrote:I just want a game plan that plays to our strengths, especially in winnable games. If he can't do that then he can F off. Wonder if the job is beyond him at his stage of experience. My personal preference as coach is in the box, David Teague.
Maybe, only maybe, BB is too much of a teacher, maybe he is unable to let go of the reigns!
Maybe he, and our club, doesn't have the guts to give the AFL the finger and play a game style that suits our kids!
Re: 2018 Rd 13: Post Game Prattling-Carlton v Fremantle - laj - 06-17-2018
(06-17-2018, 02:32 AM)LP link Wrote:Maybe, only maybe, BB is too much of a teacher, maybe he is unable to let go of the reigns!Might have a point.
Maybe he, and our club, doesn't have the guts to give the AFL the finger and play a game style that suits our kids!
Just about every other side plays that way now. This is the lowest scoring season since 1968.