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Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - crashlander - 08-21-2017
I find it hard to respect Hawthorn, even though my father barracked for them.
[1] Clarkson: He is an excellent coach: his record speaks for itself. But that does not make him a good human. He is almost everything I would prefer a human NOT to be. He doesn't like acknowledging that any other team is better than his on any given day. He has an angry streak larger than his height.
I have seen him since his first game (the Battle of Britain). His assault on Aitken should have been forwarded to the police.
[2] Hypocrisy: Clarkson, Hodge and many others are total hypocrites. I was at the game many years ago when both Buddy and Fev were going for their 100th goal of the season. Buddy got his early: we couldn't stop Hawthorn at the time. However, as the game went on, Fev got closer and closer, up to 99 at 3/4 time. Hawthorn then did everything they could to stop Fev getting that final goal, including playing 5 men on him. Naturally Fev fell short, although a number of very cheap goals managed to be scored by us during the quarter.
Clarkson, Hodge and others then came out of separate occasions to state that it was pity that Fev didn't get his 100, that they did not try extra hard to stop him getting the goal and that they would be happy to see it happen.
What bald faced lies they uttered.
It doesn't bother me that they were so competitive that they felt they had to defend every goal. I can understand that. But to come out publically and to try to rewrite history with them in the role of good guy was ridiculous. I cannot believe any of them could honestly have believed that trash having seem them play.
[3] Arrogance: we have been accused of this and we may have been guilty once upon a time.
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - bratblue - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 03:36 AM)Baggers link Wrote:) Yep.
Hang on... hear that? It's Orson Welles bellowing from the heavens... 'bound to be a c0ckhead somewhere who degraded the name, Kane.'
Hah, you and Cookie, well spotted. I couldn't imagine that being picked up on Bomberblitz. Apocalypse Now for them. The Terror, The Terror.
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - sydneybluesfan - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 04:17 AM)bratblue link Wrote:Hah, you and Cookie, well spotted. I couldn't imagine that being picked up on Bomberblitz. Apocalypse Now for them. The Terror, The Terror.I think you mean 'The Horror, the Horror'.............
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 04:09 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Hypocrisy: Clarkson, Hodge and many others are total hypocrites. I was at the game many years ago when both Buddy and Fev were going for their 100th goal of the season. Buddy got his early: we couldn't stop Hawthorn at the time. However, as the game went on, Fev got closer and closer, up to 99 at 3/4 time. Hawthorn then did everything they could to stop Fev getting that final goal, including playing 5 men on him. Naturally Fev fell short, although a number of very cheap goals managed to be scored by us during the quarter.
Clarkson, Hodge and others then came out of separate occasions to state that it was pity that Fev didn't get his 100, that they did not try extra hard to stop him getting the goal and that they would be happy to see it happen.
What bald faced lies they uttered.
It doesn't bother me that they were so competitive that they felt they had to defend every goal. I can understand that. But to come out publically and to try to rewrite history with them in the role of good guy was ridiculous. I cannot believe any of them could honestly have believed that trash having seem them play.
I was there as well, and remember the Dawks had the game in the bag because we were Fevola focused to try and get him to 100.
Gibbs, Judd and Murphy smashed them in the midfield hit up Fev repeat effort after effort. Clarkson put Croad, Roughead, Franklin, Hodge, Brown and Dew inside D50 late in the game when they were already 10 goals up. The Dawks were clear 2nd on the ladder with no hope of getting 1st or dropping to 3rd.
When I watched the replay the coverage showed Clarkson sitting in the box laughing at Fev's efforts as Franklin and Roughead kept dropping in front of him. In my opinion it was one of the most unsportsmanlike like efforts I have ever witnessed, probably only bettered by his hit on Aitken!
But what do people expect from someone who vandalizes property, abuses junior umpires and threatens people!
The irony of "The Dawks" labeling themselves as "The Family Club" is not lost on me!
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - LP - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 01:00 AM)DJC link Wrote:I think that Murphy is enjoying having team mates who, although they may be in their first or second season, don't mind getting physical with the opposition, and particularly when someone tries to rough up the skipper. Samo is one bloke who seems to like watching Murphy's back.
I think the 3rd man up rule means Murphy is no longer surrounded by giants at stoppages, it's had a big impact on his durability!
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - madbluboy - 08-21-2017
Murphy isn't half the player Tom Mitchell is.
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 05:08 AM)LP link Wrote:I think the 3rd man up rule means Murphy is no longer surrounded by giants at stoppages, it's had a big impact on his durability!
Completely irrelevant LP - which teams used a giant to go third man up, apart from our two rucks at forward 50 boundary throw ins?
The third man up, unless they had the recovery and second and third efforts of Kreuzer, was effectively out of the clearance contest. Now that they can't go for the hitout, they can sit on the clearance contest and pick off Murphy and the like.
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - DJC - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 05:12 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Murphy isn't half the player Tom Mitchell is.
It's funny you should say that (actually it's more predictable than funny) but I was thinking during the game that Mitchell has little impact for all the possessions he racks up. I can understand the comments about him from earlier in the season. I can't remember which coach it was but they said that they didn't bother tagging Mitchell because he doesn't do much with the ball.
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - bratblue - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 04:44 AM)sydneybluesfan link Wrote:I think you mean 'The Horror, the Horror'.............
Correct, although I think for cheat supporters the words are interchangable.
Re: Rd 22: Post Game Peace? Carlton vs Hawthorn - madbluboy - 08-21-2017
(08-21-2017, 05:23 AM)DJC link Wrote:It's funny you should say that (actually it's more predictable than funny) but I was thinking during the game that Mitchell has little impact for all the possessions he racks up. I can understand the comments about him from earlier in the season. I can't remember which coach it was but they said that they didn't bother tagging Mitchell because he doesn't do much with the ball.
Nathan Buckley, it worked well for him in the rematch.
On the weekend Mitchell scored 164 supercoach to Murphy's 93 because he wins the hard ball and his disposals have more impact.