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Re: General Discussions - kruddler - 12-01-2022
(12-01-2022, 01:32 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Yes. That racial profiling you mention has nothing to do with intuition... just pure, unadulterated prejudice.
Isn't all profiling prejudice is some way though? There is always some kind of -ist attached to it.
Racist.
Sexist
Ageist
etc
Serial killer profile - looking for a white male, 50+.
Reason behind that profiling - People missing from affluent neighbourhood, usually young girls, killer shows methodical patience and ability to cover his tracks.
Black people can't have money?
Females can't like young girls?
Younger people can't be organised?
Sure, what Mav described is an extreme case that never should've occurred. But if looked at data on the profile of people who are likely to give the police trouble, then black males, with past indescretions who are in the 18-50 age bracket would almost certainly be the picture you get painted from a statistical analysis point of view.
So whats the difference between the 2 types of profiling?
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 12-01-2022
Thryleon, perhaps I assumed that you regarded intuition as applying past experience after gathering enough information to understand how similar the new situation is. If you regard intuition as applying past experience without doing so, then we’re definitely on different sides of the argument. As the old saying goes, if you only have a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.
Re: General Discussions - kruddler - 12-01-2022
(12-01-2022, 01:59 AM)Mav link Wrote:Again, an alert copper is an open-minded one who pays particular attention to things that might go unnoticed by........the majority of people. Sometimes sub-consciously. Thus getting a feel for a situation without exactly knowing why - hence gut instinct and/or intuition.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 12-01-2022
As I described it above.
Re: General Discussions - kruddler - 12-01-2022
(12-01-2022, 02:12 AM)Mav link Wrote:As I described it above.disagree
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 12-01-2022
I disagree with your disagreement.
Re: General Discussions - Baggers - 12-01-2022
And what about intuition that proved correct based on no discernible evidence?
Example: I was looking forward to living in Darwin when I was a part of the HMAS Arrow ship's company. The Arrow was being refit in Sydney before sailing for, and to be based in, Darwin. I was the comms guy. Shortly (few weeks) before sailing out of Sydney for Darwin, I just got an awful feeling and got very anxious, debilitatingly so. So I swapped with another comms guys with similar experience (RO McGowan), and he went to Darwin on the Arrow and I stayed in Sydney on HMAS Bombard. The Arrow sank in Darwin Harbour during cyclone Tracey. Macca was unhurt, thank the gods. My good mate LT Bob Dagworthy, who was the Skipper, was also unhurt but two mates perished. (Crew of 18). This has happened a good few times and always without any evidence or reason. (No, not clairvoyant or anything like that nonsense).
Re: General Discussions - Baggers - 12-01-2022
(12-01-2022, 02:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Isn't all profiling prejudice is some way though? There is always some kind of -ist attached to it.
Racist.
Sexist
Ageist
etc
Correct profiling wouldn't be prejudiced, remembering that prejudice is to judge another unfairly based on... etc. Profiling more relies pure objectivity and consistencies with previous similar crimes. Once judgement and assessment becoming influenced by prejudice I believe it is no longer profiling... just some bigoted pr1ck attempting to force a fit to satisfy his/her twisted beliefs.
Re: General Discussions - kruddler - 12-01-2022
[member=61]Baggers[/member],
Ultimately, you need a bigger sample size to be proven statistically relevant. Doesn't make it less relevant for you though.
Thankfully, that is not something you'd ever have to prove.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 12-01-2022
Maybe you heard storm warnings even though you didn’t dwell on them on a conscious level? Or maybe you had some nagging concerns which had nothing to do with the weather but they saved you from it by pure luck? If not, maybe you are clairvoyant! In which case, send me some numbers for the next Powerball draw!