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Re: Football Department Review - LoveNavy - 08-26-2021
Today. I am not Carlton ?
Re: Football Department Review - kruddler - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 07:28 AM)rocky link Wrote:Can't believe I'm hearing all this anti-Cripps noise. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no inside knowledge about;
1. How his body is
2. What he thinks about anyone
So, I'm willing to give the champ the benefit of the doubt after a couple of lean years based on his output which includes ;
Leigh Matthews Trophy: 2019
2× All-Australian team: 2018, 2019
3× John Nicholls Medal: 2015, 2018, 2019
I think he deserves it
At the same age, here is someone else stats....
1x AFLPA Best first year player
1x AFLCA Champion player of the year:
1× All-Australian team:
1× John Nicholls Medal:
1x International rules player
Captain
8 years later and another 135 games added and only 1x B+F and 1xAA was added to that list....and everyone would agree his career was downhill from there.
That player.....Marc Murphy.
Which player was better? First half of career Murphy or 2nd half?
Given Cripps is a much more inside player with more injuries and a shorter career expected....why would you expect him to be better in the 2nd half of his career?
Re: Football Department Review - Micky0 - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 12:13 PM)kruddler link Wrote:At the same age, here is someone else stats....And did we protect Murph or did we let his body become banged up too? So rather than put proper help around Cripps, we’re going to send him off?
1x AFLPA Best first year player
1x AFLCA Champion player of the year:
1× All-Australian team:
1× John Nicholls Medal:
1x International rules player
Captain
8 years later and another 135 games added and only 1x B+F and 1xAA was added to that list....and everyone would agree his career was downhill from there.
That player.....Marc Murphy.
Which player was better? First half of career Murphy or 2nd half?
Given Cripps is a much more inside player with more injuries and a shorter career expected....why would you expect him to be better in the 2nd half of his career?
Like DT, Cripps needs support! Let’s put that in place and see how he goes.
Re: Football Department Review - rocky - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 12:13 PM)kruddler link Wrote:Which player was better? First half of career Murphy or 2nd half?Errrr, is that a rhetorical question, because I thought you said earlier you didn't care what my opinion was and as I said earlier, I'm not interested in the tit for tat thing. MY OPINION is we don't get rid of the champ. That's it. Nothing you put forward to the contrary will change MY OPINION.
Given Cripps is a much more inside player with more injuries and a shorter career expected....why would you expect him to be better in the 2nd half of his career?
Re: Football Department Review - kruddler - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 12:20 PM)Micky0 link Wrote:And did we protect Murph or did we let his body become banged up too? So rather than put proper help around Cripps, we’re going to send him off?Cripps' body is already shot. Don't repeat the mistakes of the past.
Like DT, Cripps needs support! Let’s put that in place and see how he goes.
Walsh is the future. Don't ask him to bust his gut chasing Cripps' man too, find a bloke who can and will chase their own man.
Protect him!
Re: Football Department Review - kruddler - 08-26-2021
(08-26-2021, 12:31 PM)rocky link Wrote:Errrr, is that a rhetorical question, because I thought you said earlier you didn't care what my opinion was and as I said earlier, I'm not interested in the tit for tat thing. MY OPINION is we don't get rid of the champ. That's it. Nothing you put forward to the contrary will change MY OPINION.I'm not interested in changing your opinion.
I'm interested in hearing why people like you who share that opinion do. What are the reasons.
So far all i've gathered is.....I like Cripps because Cripps is good.
Is that all there is?
Re: Football Department Review - pew2 - 08-27-2021
During the year i wanted to (before he signed ) trade cripps for 2 first round picks,believing that his body cant match it any more with modern game and i hope with the review findings some players might be moved on and traded.
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-27-2021
I have grave doubts any coach can construct a game plan under the current 6-6-6 and Stand rule that will slow down play enough for Cripps to keep up and be fresh enough to play like he did 3 seasons ago, even if he does overcome all his injuries.
It's not that Cripps can't play, it's that fans are not considering the effects of the rule changes, they are massive and have more of a negative impact on Cripps than perhaps any other player in the AFL.
So the only alternative for Cripps is to become more a KPP marking target to make use of his size, but so far he has struggled to take and hold marks. Let's face it he is not great overhead and given his entire playing career it is probably unfair to expect him to become instantly better, marking has never been a big part of his game which is the irony of what he has to do now. He isn't at all natural flying for contested marks!
He can buy himself some time and space by getting better on his off-side, all players can, but it's a skill that is greatly diminished in modern AFL, all this outside the boot rubbish is bullcrap!
Finally, for a guy who wins so much contested footy, he's quite ordinary by hand, hopefully Diesel gets in a sorts that out and has him punching the pill like he's breaking through a brick wall before next season! Cripps is nearly a 200cm monster, he should handball like Fogarty kicks!
Re: Football Department Review - kruddler - 08-27-2021
(08-27-2021, 05:58 AM)LP link Wrote:I have grave doubts any coach can construct a game plan under the current 6-6-6 and Stand rule that will slow down play enough for Cripps to keep up and be fresh enough to play like he did 3 seasons ago, even if he does overcome all his injuries.Thanks for bringing that up. I was meant to add that to my 'list' of things working against Cripps.
It's not that Cripps can't play, it's that fans are not considering the effects of the rule changes, they are massive and have more of an negative impact on Cripps than perhaps any other player in the AFL.
If the bloke could kick, it wouldn't be an issue as much because we could put him forward, but i'd prefer Casboult to Cripps shooting at goal.
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-27-2021
(08-27-2021, 06:03 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Thanks for bringing that up. I was meant to add that to my 'list' of things working against Cripps.His lack of pace is a massive problem, because if you stand him in F50 or D50 his opponents of similar size nearly all run off him. Perhaps the only thing we could do is after the stoppage have Cripps follow the opposition ruck around and let De Koning run around freely. But I'm not sure Cripps can even keep pace with rucks like Grundy or Nic Nat.
If the bloke could kick, it wouldn't be an issue as much because we could put him forward, but i'd prefer Casboult to Cripps shooting at goal.
On the plus side, his agility has improved massively, he is clearly capable and powerful enough to run those arcs that make him hard to stop, but then comes the kick or handball.
Sometimes when kicking he is lucky to hit his foot, perhaps he should take up boot slamming style like the olden days, just stick your foot out and throw the footy at it! Buy him a pair of steel cap boots! :o
I hate talking about this stuff, because I'm a Carlton fan and Cripps is a Carlton man, it hurts to discuss because I want him to succeed so badly.
I want the "fat kid", as he was labelled by Dodoro and his CheatingFC mates, to stick it right up em! >
