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Re: General Discussions - DJC - 11-29-2022
(11-29-2022, 04:15 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Coon is a racist term and should have been changed decades ago.
Colonial beer having to change their name was ridiculous.
Perhaps if it was called Terra Nullius Ale but objecting to "colonial" is a stretch.
Re: General Discussions - DJC - 11-29-2022
Kraft's 2009 advertisement acknowledged the inappropriateness of the Coon brand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg7WDeReC9Q
Re: General Discussions - Lods - 11-29-2022
(11-29-2022, 03:57 AM)LP link Wrote:What's the spin behind the National Party rejecting The Voice?
I heard for the announcement the Nats had an Indigenous Party member on hand. Are they claiming The Voice as proposed is bogus, bits and pieces of commentary I have read suggest it was spun that The Voice proposal doesn't go far enough in giving Indigenous Australian's an official role to play in the political forum.
Yet politically the actions seem to be the exact opposite of the declared intent.
Millennials will accept this as a right of opinion in a post truth era, no matter how obviously bogus the spin is.
Politically, I neither for or against, in fact I'm fairly disinterested. But I do expect elected officials and parties are held to account, and on both sides of this debate there appears to be disingenuous behaviour. One side states it supports the cause while throwing roadblocks in the way, another side campaigning for equality effectively rejects the proposal because it's not positively biased enough for them to recommend proceeding. Somewhere, hidden in the dirty details, away from the public's prying eyes, lives motive. Why don't they just spit it out their dirty little secrets!
I don't blame people for having a bias, an opinion or a belief, just don't push it on me by stealth!
"If you don't understand it, don't vote for it"
It's the slogan that will bring a referendum undone.
This one worries me because the effect of it not getting up will be a kick in the guts for indigenous Australians.
So the onus is on the proponents to fully explain how this will work and impact.
In short ....Keep it simple and understandable.
Re: General Discussions - Thryleon - 11-29-2022
It was crap tasting cheese anyway!
Re: General Discussions - LP - 11-29-2022
(11-29-2022, 09:04 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:It was crap tasting cheese anyway!Whether we like it or not it was dozens of Aussie jobs, perhaps family, neighbors or friends of some on here.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 11-29-2022
If you’re right (which is disputed) then this is yet another evil perpetrated by racist and/or reactionary right wingers! Aren’t they ashamed of putting people out of work? Just so they can stamp their feet like little toddlers who want their own way over a new product name …
If they rebranded Weet-Bix and called it Wheat Bricks, I’d still buy it. How does the change of name affect the taste or quality of the product? Pathetic really …
Re: General Discussions - Baggers - 11-30-2022
(11-29-2022, 10:53 PM)Mav link Wrote:If you’re right (which is disputed) then this is yet another evil perpetrated by racist and/or reactionary right wingers! Aren’t they ashamed of putting people out of work? Just so they can stamp their feet like little toddlers who want their own way over a new product name …I actually think the very average new name/branding and poor advertising/PR was a major contributor to their demise.
If they rebranded Weet-Bix and called it Wheat Bricks, I’d still buy it. How does the change of name affect the taste or quality of the product? Pathetic really …
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 11-30-2022
As pointed out by DJC, there’s no proof that there has been any demise. But let’s face it: this was not a case of a universally loved name (or product, for that matter) being harmed by a poor rebrand. The original name was unfortunate, to say the least. Market research is a well-developed expertise which is far more reliable than posters on a footy site pontificating about ups and downs in the cheese market. A bit of actual evidence would be nice to see before we conclude that doing the right thing leads to disaster.
Re: General Discussions - LP - 11-30-2022
(11-30-2022, 12:20 AM)Baggers date Wrote:I actually think the very average new name/branding and poor advertising/PR was a major contributor to their demise.As I see it, it my own weird way! :o
- The activists painted the general public as racist for buying the Coon brand, the new woke US based owners folded under inferred pressure from the activists who acted like it was some universal public outrage downunder. (PS; They tried to do the same to our very own Lily of Laguna based theme song, approaching our club's International sponsors to abandon support if the theme song wasn't changed.)
- The general public saw the company's concession to the activists as an assertion that the public was in fact racist for buying the Coon branded product, the general public didn't like the label so it took offense at the assertion and discarded the Cheers brand replacement wholesale.
- Supermarket shelves were full of the Cheers stuff they could not sell, even heavily discounted, rising resource costs were never the issue for the brand demise, that was just the corporate excuse deflecting from the corporate stupidity.
- The huge annual loss claimed to be the reason for the manufacturing reshuffle was nothing more than the one off cost of rebranding a major retail trademark from Coon to Cheers.
Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-30-2022
https://au.yahoo.com/sports/afl-2022-collingwood-super-fan-joffa-corfe-pleads-guilty-child-sex-abuse-003339127.html