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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - PaulP - 02-22-2017
Who knew ?
http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/unskilled-and-unable-why-donald-trumps-great-jobs-promise-is-a-lie-20170222-guijx3.html
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 02-22-2017
(02-22-2017, 09:38 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Who knew ?
http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/unskilled-and-unable-why-donald-trumps-great-jobs-promise-is-a-lie-20170222-guijx3.html
Fake news?
Trump managed to convince a lot of needy voters that he had solutions to a range of problems confronting the USA (and many other countries). Unfortunately for them, and even more so for the majority of voters who didn't buy his carefully orchestrated media marketing exercise, simplistic solutions to complex problems lead to unforeseen consequences.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-22-2017
And history will repeat itself when it comes to the broad brush strokes of Republican tax/economic policy. They rail against deficits, yet the deficit always seems to balloon when they control the White House.
The main reason this happens is because of their obsession with tax cuts. They favour the rich disproportionately and they are justified by magical claims that the rich will put the money they save into new investments which will create new tax sources that will more than offset the loss of tax revenue. The problem is that economists have never identified one case when this actually happened.
The next major hurdle is that they are also obsessed by ploughing a lot more money into the military and that often seems to help out their mates in that industry. Often that money is wasted because it's spent on equipment that the military doesn't even want - weaponry and munitions that would have been brilliant in previous wars but not those that are likely to be fought in the future. But there are lobbyists and influential congressmen who need some pork barrels to take home to their companies and districts. I can see Trump demanding more battleships to show those Chinese that the US Navy is still top dog.
Republican President also have a habit of getting the US involved in major military conflicts, which increases spending.
Now Trump is making a $25b commitment to build a wall and the new deportation drive will be costly as well.
So falling revenues and increasing government spending on non-welfare areas means the deficit will go up. Then the Republicans will demand that social services be slashed to balance the books. And when the next Democratic President enters the White House, the GOP will refuse to allow any budgets pass which don't slash spending on social services or which attempt to increase taxes to pay for Trump's deficit.
At least some GOP budget hawks are showing signs that they might resist Trump's spending plans, but in the end they'll probably decide that they can bide their time until the Dems get back in.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 02-22-2017
It will be interesting to see how the Trump admin approaches the growing power and global influence of the China/Russia/Iran axis in order to ensure US global supremacy. Will it move away from colour revolutions, regime change, Islamic jihad and creation of chaos as employed by the previous administrations or try plan B?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 02-22-2017
(02-21-2017, 07:22 AM)Mav link Wrote:Yeah, right ...
I guess that would explain why Trump, the GOP and right-wing wingnuts spent the 8 years of Obama's presidency concocting "real fake news" about Obama being a secret Muslim who had a forged Hawaiian birth certificate who was trying to destroy America as well as bring in death panels through Obamacare :
The FoxNews/Brietbart/infowars/TeaParty/Trump hysteria was a product merely of a black American Democrat President being in the White House and not to any supposed hysteria from the left.
As far as I'm concerned, it's now fair game for the left to regard Trump as the"so-called President". They're merely taking a leaf out of Trump's own playbook in disqualifying the sitting President and vilifying him for selling out the USA to foreign interests. And to suggest that Trump's supporters are now only reacting to the attitude of the left is beyond laughable.
This is what I see you saying.
End.
I don't know why you're so hung up on it, but whatever floats your boat. I can quote you again if you like.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 02-22-2017
(02-22-2017, 11:01 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:This is what I see you saying.
End.
I don't know why you're so hung up on it, but whatever floats your boat. I can quote you again if you like.
Even the most casual observer of US politics would have to agree that Trump's birther lie was an unprecedented, prolonged and baseless attack on the incumbent POTUS. Trump and his supporters can bleat all they like, but he set the ground rules and now has to live by them.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 02-22-2017
In other news, the balanced media like to paint trump as unhinged, but our own sixty minutes got attacked in an Islamic enclave in Sweden months back, and trump has his finger on the pulse with this nugget, which turns out to be accurate.
http://www.afr.com/news/politics/world/first-donald-trump-said-it-then-riots-erupt-in-stockholm-immigrant-suburb-20170221-gui939
They must have heard he said they were violent. If you can't beat them join them???
@DJC, I don't really care. I find the three ringed American circus exactly that.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 02-22-2017
I also dislike Trump but I detest petulance in general particularly when it's served up with an air of superiority and arrogance to go with it.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 02-22-2017
(02-22-2017, 11:09 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:In other news, the balanced media like to paint trump as unhinged, but our own sixty minutes got attacked in an Islamic enclave in Sweden months back, and trump has his finger on the pulse with this nugget, which turns out to be accurate.
http://www.afr.com/news/politics/world/first-donald-trump-said-it-then-riots-erupt-in-stockholm-immigrant-suburb-20170221-gui939
They must have heard he said they were violent. If you can't beat them join them???
@DJC, I don't really care. I find the three ringed American circus exactly that.
Fake news Thry! Rinkeby is home to immigrants but also has a significant population of unemployed Swedes.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-22-2017
You must have REALLY hated it, then, when Trump refused to say he'd accept the result of the election, although he did eventually say that he would, "if I win". Can't get more superiority and arrogance than that. And he can hardly complain now that others follow his lead.