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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 02-21-2017
All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 04:16 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.
What about the hysteria from the right?
McCain's warning about Trump's attack on the free press isn't exactly fake news.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Lods - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 04:30 AM)DJC link Wrote:What about the hysteria from the right?
McCain's warning about Trump's attack on the free press isn't exactly fake news.
That's not so much hysteria as a "reasoned" warning.
It's now become a question of how to deal with Trump.
A comment like McCain's...just "matter of factly" stating "that's how Dictator's start" has much more impact than some of the more vocal and hysterical approaches.
A five minute bit from Alec Baldwin or John Oliver has more impact than a dozen rallies.
It's important that the opponents of Trump remain reasoned, controlled and disciplined.
Sending him up in a comedic fashion is also useful (He actually finds this really difficult to counter, and it does get to him)...anything else plays right into his hands and he'll bounce it right back at them.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 04:16 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.
There is now no real left or right as we used to understand it, imo. Just slightly different flavours of the same thing, serving the same interests and manipulating the truth to suit their own ends. I don't really trust any of them much anymore - in fact the situation is cause for great concern.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - DJC - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 04:57 AM)Lods link Wrote:That's not so much hysteria as a "reasoned" warning.uuy
It's now become a question of how to deal with Trump.
A comment like McCain's...just "matter of factly" stating "that's how Dictator's start" has much more impact than some of the more vocal and hysterical approaches.
A five minute bit from Alec Baldwin or John Oliver has more impact than a dozen rallies.
It's important that the opponents of Trump remain reasoned, controlled and disciplined.
Sending him up in a comedic fashion is also useful (He actually finds this really difficult to counter, and it does get to him)...anything else plays right into his hands and he'll bounce it right back at them.
That's my point, albeit clumsily made Lods.
Reasoned criticism is dismissed as hysteria or fake news but it's harder to do so when it comes from the right, the speaker of the UK parliament for example.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Lods - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 04:58 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:There is now no real left or right as we used to understand it, imo. Just slightly different flavours of the same thing, serving the same interests and manipulating the truth to suit their own ends. I don't really trust any of them much anymore - in fact the situation is cause for great concern.
That's the "fog of war" that's been created.
Extremism on both sides leaves you struggling to find the truth...and folks will make that judgement based on their own filtering systems.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 04:16 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:All this hysteria from the left about Trump is why he got in. People are sick of it. It's fake news lol.Yeah, right ...
I guess that would explain why Trump, the GOP and right-wing wingnuts spent the 8 years of Obama's presidency concocting "real fake news" about Obama being a secret Muslim who had a forged Hawaiian birth certificate who was trying to destroy America as well as bring in death panels through Obamacare :
The FoxNews/Brietbart/infowars/TeaParty/Trump hysteria was a product merely of a black American Democrat President being in the White House and not to any supposed hysteria from the left.
As far as I'm concerned, it's now fair game for the left to regard Trump as the"so-called President". They're merely taking a leaf out of Trump's own playbook in disqualifying the sitting President and vilifying him for selling out the USA to foreign interests. And to suggest that Trump's supporters are now only reacting to the attitude of the left is beyond laughable.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Thryleon - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 07:22 AM)Mav link Wrote:Yeah, right ...
I guess that would explain why Trump, the GOP and right-wing wingnuts spent the 8 years of Obama's presidency concocting "real fake news" about Obama being a secret Muslim who had a forged Hawaiian birth certificate who was trying to destroy America as well as bring in death panels through Obamacare :
The FoxNews/Brietbart/infowars/TeaParty/Trump hysteria was a product merely of a black American Democrat President being in the White House and not to any supposed hysteria from the left.
As far as I'm concerned, it's now fair game for the left to regard Trump as the"so-called President". They're merely taking a leaf out of Trump's own playbook in disqualifying the sitting President and vilifying him for selling out the USA to foreign interests. And to suggest that Trump's supporters are now only reacting to the attitude of the left is beyond laughable.
Trumps own playbook??
The media are the only ones running these plays. Create stories from nothing, report on bullshit, and keep people looking at topics that quite simply are irrelevant to the job they are actually doing.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - madbluboy - 02-21-2017
Yeah big bad Trump wants to secure their borders, how dare he?
Easy for us to throw stones when we're surrounded by oceans and if any illegals come here we send them to prison on an offshore island. ;D
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 02-21-2017
(02-21-2017, 10:10 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Trumps own playbook??
The media are the only ones running these plays. Create stories from nothing, report on bullcrap, and keep people looking at topics that quite simply are irrelevant to the job they are actually doing.
You have to look at and consider who actually owns the media.
As Mike Moore quipped before the election of Trump - "This is going to be the biggest FU in history!"