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Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - madbluboy - 08-12-2024
Massimo smashed us in a VFL game, Bombers didn't rate him.
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - dodge - 08-12-2024
I was listening to most of it on ABC. Interesting that Harford and Murphy were talking about our lack of cohesion coming out of defence and we were making things up to get the ball out. It has been like that for some time as others have also commented.
It is this cohesion that we have lacked - we are great when we have the cohesion, but when it is missing we look ordinary and struggle a lot. So many things haven't ultimately worked this season.
I also think that we (the fans, media and maybe the club) massively inflated our win over Tigers (hindsight is wonderful). Tigers have been obviously pretty ordinary, so shouldn't hold a great deal of weight and maybe cracks were overlooked.
I can cross September footy out of the diary now!
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 08-12-2024
(08-12-2024, 10:04 AM)dodge link Wrote:I was listening to most of it on ABC. Interesting that Harford and Murphy were talking about our lack of cohesion coming out of defence and we were making things up to get the ball out. It has been like that for some time as others have also commented.
It is this cohesion that we have lacked - we are great when we have the cohesion, but when it is missing we look ordinary and struggle a lot. So many things haven't ultimately worked this season.
I also think that we (the fans, media and maybe the club) massively inflated our win over Tigers (hindsight is wonderful). Tigers have been obviously pretty ordinary, so shouldn't hold a great deal of weight and maybe cracks were overlooked.
I can cross September footy out of the diary now!
I think its worth pointing out that our best kickers from defence are....
Docherty - obviously not playing.
Saad - got injured
Boyd - got injured
McGovern - got injured
So kicking out of defence was left too.....
Newman - solid kick, can get up and under
Kemp - hit and miss....literally.
Weitering - excellent kick, but you don't want him carrying the ball out, you want him defending
Cowan - not great
Cincotta - not great, also got injured
Ollie Hollands - ok, not great.
We were too timid with our kicks coming out of defence because we didn't have anyone left who could be bold and take the game on.
So yes, they are right, but if you look at the 'why' its actually to be expected.
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - dodge - 08-12-2024
Don't care about the second half.
They mentioned this during the first half a couple of times.
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - LoveNavy - 08-12-2024
(08-12-2024, 03:40 AM)LP link Wrote:We need blokes like H and Charlie to wear ultra-stretchy jumpers, sure opponents can grab them easier but it sticks out like dog's ballz to the umpire!
The skin tight kit shizen is wrong thinking, it's a generalisation, suits some positions and players, is exactly wrong for others!
Gotta love some cognition lateralis ?
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - pertz - 08-12-2024
When all is said and done (the title of Neale Daniher's excellent autobiography btw), it is going to be another failed season and I have had enough as I'm sure you all have as well.
It's just bloody hard to be positive at this point. So important that we compete hard in the last 2 games and hopefully win them.
Green shoots anyone?
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - laj - 08-12-2024
From a couple of things I've been reading apparently Russell exponentially increased training loads over the last 6 weeks in preparation for finals.
Is 2nd hand info though.
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - pinot - 08-12-2024
Building connection and cohesion between the lines over a period of time is the hard work - I believe it is there but this amount of unavailability is hurting the cohesion. Hawks looked in control because they put the same talent on the park every week and built cohesion. Hawks have six player on injury list where five are not first team players. We will only win big games with a healthy list that grind a result together over a number of consecutive matches. This has been very challenging year for the club.
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - kruddler - 08-12-2024
(08-12-2024, 11:58 AM)laj link Wrote:From a couple of things I've been reading apparently Russell exponentially increased training loads over the last 6 weeks in preparation for finals.I think a couple of us suggested that and he broke us as a result
Is 2nd hand info though.
Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn - Shakin77 - 08-13-2024
(08-12-2024, 11:58 AM)laj link Wrote:From a couple of things I've been reading apparently Russell exponentially increased training loads over the last 6 weeks in preparation for finals.
Is 2nd hand info though.
We are going to get a lot of these rumours.
From a 2nd party was told a busted up between Russell and Voss ended with Russell resigning.
"Essentially Voss pulled rank on a few injury calls with some of their senior players. Russell's response was "if you aren't listening to my advice, my role is pointless."
Full football department review upcoming"