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Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - pinot - 05-04-2024
Williams has another two years to run on his contract after this year - at 29 y.o I seriously dont know where his overinflated pay cheque fits on the list as 18 y.o kids perform at same level . We need to give up a 2nd round pick to get him off the list.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Mantis - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 10:20 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:After rd 8
2023: 4 1/2 wins 107%
2024: 5 wins 109%
Hopefully we don't fall as far as last year.
We lost around 6 games in a row to drop so far, and then recovering with around 9 games in a row. I can’t see any side having 9 wins from 9 games. The competition is far more even with the top 10 sides. Top 4 placing for us might get more difficult than last season. Especially if you fall 3 or 4 games behind. Voss is doing more than a reasonable job. He can’t do the work on the field. Just select the squad with some thought.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LoveNavy - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 06:50 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:The persistent problem we have, and which seems to have no solution, is that too many of our good senior players are physically fragile and are unavailable for selection for long periods of time, making it impossible to have a cohesive unit.
On the rare occasions when most of them do play on the same day we are given a glimpse of what is possible. Then the injuries start again.
Unfortunately it is possible that where we are now on the ladder is as good as it gets with this list.
Sad but true. We've remained faithfully optimistic about our injury prone players. Add the "normal" run of inevitable injuries to this core and you have a serious problem Houston.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 01:06 PM)northernblue link Wrote:I disagree, people forget the Freo game where Williams and his dash and dare won us the game.NT, We will agree to disagree on ZW...with players returning it will be interesting to see if the coach has faith in him and he keeps his place..
Saad excels at his role, Williams is a poor man’s replacement but it’s temporary.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 05-04-2024
Williams coped two umpiring clangers early and fans spent the next four quarters blaming him for everything, he wasn't that bad.
Walsh left Daicos free unchecked in F50 in the critical game ending final moment, and fans are silent!
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 09:23 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Out coached is interesting. I cant really take it when you lose by a goal and the scores were level with 2 minutes left.Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.
Do you get outcoached in that circumstance? Pues had extra rest too after anzac day. The second quarter was our worst and where we let the game slip but our handballs and errant kicking had more to do with it than being out coached.
Irrespective of what we say we played last seasons premiers who have started hitting their stride recently. It had danger game written all ober it from the get go.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 09:31 AM)pinot link Wrote:There are plenty of small problemFor a bloke who is meant to be an aerobic beast, he doesn't get on his bike much in an attempt to run his opponent ragged (or lay a tackle heaven forebid).
Charlie Curnows contested posession rate is over 60% for a key forward it needs to be under 50%. So he is working way too hard to win his posessions... thats down to various things - not giving him space to lead into and contesting ground balls which is not his job but has to go for them as small forwards are no where near it.
Lack of run and covering the ground. Filth always had 2-3 players tackling one Blue we did not reciprocate because we didnt have the team composition to cover the ground.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 09:50 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:For a bloke who is meant to be an aerobic beast, he doesn't get on his bike much in an attempt to run his opponent ragged (or lay a tackle heaven forebid).
He is still an aerobic beast.
Difference is he is 100kg or whatever he is.
It's the starting, stopping, changing direction that sucks up energy.
Get him on a long distance run and he'll go all day. He's like a truck on the highway, get him up to speed and he can cruise all day. Change his cruising speed and it takes a lot of time and energy to get back up to speed.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-04-2024
What Zac Williams needs more than anything is some luck and the BOD. No doubt his career to date at Carlton has been a little underwhelming, but that's not surprising, given the significant professional and personal setbacks he's dealt with. It's hard enough firing on all cylinders in an elite performance environment when things are going your way.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 09:40 PM)LP link Wrote:Williams coped two umpiring clangers early and fans spent the next four quarters blaming him for everything, he wasn't that bad.He gave away 2 or 3 frees for holding plain and simple, his opponents had him bluffed. Not a defenders a-hole.
Walsh left Daicos free unchecked in F50 in the critical game ending final moment, and fans are silent!
I called out Walsh immediately and will continue to.