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Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - LP - 08-09-2023
(08-09-2023, 04:04 AM)DJC date Wrote:Are we chasing Gresham or is it just idle speculation by football commentators with time on their hands and audiences to titillate?I think the commentators problem might be that with too much time on their hands they spend a bit too much time titillating themselves!
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - tonyo - 08-09-2023
No way known is Gresham what we need - I think we have 4 or 5 on the list already who are not much different from him.
What we really need is either
(a) a running machine or
(b) a competent third option forward (if Jack goes out the door)
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - rocky - 08-09-2023
Nothing I saw of Gresham on Sunday impressed me. In fact didn't he miss a relatively easy shot on goal from directly in front? We already have Owies and Fogarty doing that for us. Do we really need another?
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - LoveNavy - 08-09-2023
(08-09-2023, 11:07 AM)rocky link Wrote:Nothing I saw of Gresham on Sunday impressed me. In fact didn't he miss a relatively easy shot on goal from directly in front? We already have Owies and Fogarty doing that for us. Do we really need another?
No.
I'm hoping it's media inaccuracies or old news. Perhaps we enquired before our forward line got into sync.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - Gointocarlton - 08-09-2023
The more I think about it, the more it appears to me Gresham is the exact opposite to what we need. We require a high impact, game changing, small to mid height, lighting quick forward with excellent goal sense and kicking skills.
Gresham is none of those so we should be spending our time and money either finding one or drafting one with the potential to be that. He is barely best 23 for them, doesn't impact games, is slow, doesn't kick enough goals, he is Fisher on valium.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - kruddler - 08-09-2023
(08-09-2023, 11:07 AM)rocky link Wrote:Nothing I saw of Gresham on Sunday impressed me. In fact didn't he miss a relatively easy shot on goal from directly in front? We already have Owies and Fogarty doing that for us. Do we really need another?
I don't disagree with you at all.
The only thing i'd say is I, and quite a few on here, thought the same when we played against Freo and Cerra before he came across to us. That turned out alright.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - rocky - 08-09-2023
(08-09-2023, 11:37 AM)kruddler link Wrote:The only thing i'd say is I, and quite a few on here, thought the same when we played against Freo and Cerra before he came across to us. That turned out alright.God yes. I was one of those. I also thought we'd paid too much for Saad! Still, can't see any sort of upside with Gresham. Anyway, probably won't happen so the point is probably moot
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - LP - 08-09-2023
(08-09-2023, 11:37 AM)kruddler date Wrote:The only thing i'd say is I, and quite a few on here, thought the same when we played against Freo and Cerra before he came across to us. That turned out alright.Bit of a difference.
Cerra was a gun at Freo, Gresham makes up the numbers at The Aints.
What has Gresham shown us that makes us confident he's going to be an upgrade, he has to be an upgrade on someone like Owies, SoJ, Motlop, etc. etc., because nobody will displace Harry and Charlie as our 1st choice forwards so it's 3rd wheel at best, unless of course there is a swap deal going on between us the Aints.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - kruddler - 08-10-2023
(08-09-2023, 10:26 PM)LP link Wrote:Bit of a difference.
Cerra was a gun at Freo, Gresham makes up the numbers at The Aints.
What has Gresham shown us that makes us confident he's going to be an upgrade, he has to be an upgrade on someone like Owies, SoJ, Motlop, etc. etc., because nobody will displace Harry and Charlie as our 1st choice forwards so it's 3rd wheel at best, unless of course there is a swap deal going on between us the Aints.
That is hindsight speaking.
Go have a look at the last 2 games we played against Freo when Cerra was in freo colours. Not many people wanted him.
Now all of a sudden he was a gun?
Re: AFL Rd 21 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda - DJC - 08-10-2023
(08-09-2023, 11:37 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I don't disagree with you at all.
The only thing i'd say is I, and quite a few on here, thought the same when we played against Freo and Cerra before he came across to us. That turned out alright.
As I recall, many people were concerned that we'd pay overs for Cerra and lots complained that pick 6 was too much (I think I was among them). I don't think there was much opposition to adding Cerra to our list; he was already a genuine and developing talent.
I was among those who wasn't particularly pleased about adding Adam Saad to our list. I thought that he was a smaller, faster version of the Emu and always running himself into trouble. I'm more than happy that I was proved wrong about Saad but I do think that he fits into our team and gameplan(s) better than he did at Essendon.
Gresham's best footy is behind him, his disposal is poor, he doesn't provide much defensive pressure inside 50 and he hasn't been able to command a spot the saints 22. In fact, he would be a downgrade on all of the blokes who have played small forward for us this season.
I really can't see why we'd entertain adding him to our list apart from the fact that he's a free agent and won't cost us a draft pick ... unless we get compensation for a free agent leaving.
I'm convinced that there's nothing to this but media speculation.