(06-16-2023, 06:05 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I disagree. I would bet both testy satchels that supporters have way more attachment / sentimentality to certain players than the MC. It is simply impossible for outsiders to have the knowledge required. As a supporter we have one input with which to guess a player's suitability for selection (game day performance). The MC has several inputs, which we cannot see and cannot know.  We are handicapped to begin with, a handicap that is impossible to overcome. Within the comfort of one's own mind, or within the comfort of the CSC echo chamber, naturally we're right and the MC is wrong. I get that.

You are simply making assumptions about players being gifted games, MC foolishly persisting with certain players etc. I'm just speculating here, but I've heard Voss, Chris Scott and others on a number of occasions extolling the virtues of continuity - maybe what you classify as under performers being gifted games, is perhaps something that has a bigger objective behind it ? Perhaps chopping and changing week in week out creates too much instability, for a club that has had far too much of that in recent times ? Perhaps also another reason that such players get games is because the alternatives are worse ?

And there's nothing humble about keyboard warriors thinking they know more / could do a better job than professional football staff. Just take Voss as an example. He's been in the system for 30 odd years. By the time you take into account junior football, the various pathway programs that lead to AFL footy, 289 games on an AFL list with all the attendant accolades, 140 odd games as senior coach at 2 clubs, 7 seasons as Port assistant. How many thousands of hours does that equate to ? Add to that the experience of the other assistants, inputs from the senior players / leaders..............there's a lot of experience and knowledge there. Now clearly, the combined best efforts of all those individuals have not been good enough, and some would say nowhere near good enough. And to some extent that's true. But it's simply crazy to say that I know better than the MC, I decree that such and such a selection was a balls up etc.

Forums like this are dress ups and role playing for blokes. We can all have a go and be experts, pretend that we're the coach, the MC etc. We can all yell and scream and think this player stuffed up, the MC stuffed up, the club etc. But a little perspective and little humility go a long way.

(06-16-2023, 07:18 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I currently sit 4th on the total number of posts for the CSC. I am the last person to tell people not to have opinions, not to speculate etc. Whilst I can appreciate that a forum like this is not much different to blokes in a pub talking footy, the real problem that I have with it is the same problem I have with all social media. Firstly the reach is significantly greater than blokes in a pub (which brings with it problems), and secondly the de-legitimation of real knowledge and experience in favour of fake news is amplified, both in range and potential. 

(06-16-2023, 04:13 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The process is not linear and not a given. There are no guarantees that your best side produces a win. It simply gives you the best chance. You can be quite certain that if the MC picked the team based on supporter input, our season would look a lot worse.

(06-16-2023, 08:00 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:It couldn't possibly be worse.

(06-16-2023, 07:26 AM)Lods link Wrote:I suspect if we got all the 'active' members of this forum together we'd be lucky to fill a pub.

(06-16-2023, 03:48 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:That's a nice theory but, so far this season, the theory has not been supported by the outcomes.