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Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - BluePhantom - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 12:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Coll kick goals 2, 3 and 4 (ie 3 in row) in the first qtr without Carl touching the footy once, that tells a story. We outscored them, all be it by a couple of point, in the second half. How many goals did they kick from the goal square due to 50m penalties or terrible defending (the Johnson hanger in the 2nd, not one player blocked his run). Attention to detail, being switched on.
It's okay, someone else will do it! :o
IMO I don't think all the coaches are on the same page. Players always look like they are second guessing
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 01:10 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Meanwhile Mason Cox looked like Dean Cox out there.Thought Cameron vs JSOS was a no contest as well and the Pies gained significant advantage with that matchup.
Hickey, Ladhams and McLean will require two ruckman next game.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 05-22-2023
Our biggest problem is our best players are not doing any damage despite their stats.
Docherty, Cripps, Walsh and Wetering are our leaders and they show no direction out there. Malthouse said it before the game that Collingwood would show our boys what leadership looks like and he was spot on.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-22-2023
Charlie Curnow has been our best and most consistent player this season, and Saad next best IMO. Pretty much everyone else has either been up and down, or down since R1. I can't put my finger on what malaise is affecting the boys, but gee they look out of sorts. Borderline miraculous that some of our losses haven't been uglier.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Baggers - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 01:26 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Charlie Curnow has been our best and most consistent player this season, and Saad next best IMO. Pretty much everyone else has either been up and down, or down since R1. I can't put my finger on what malaise is affecting the boys, but gee they look out of sorts. Borderline miraculous that some of our losses haven't been uglier.
Yep. What's the opposite of 'cohesion?'
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 01:29 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Yep. What's the opposite of 'cohesion?'
Disunity.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 01:14 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Our biggest problem is our best players are not doing any damage despite their stats.
Docherty, Cripps, Walsh and Wetering are our leaders and they show no direction out there. Malthouse said it before the game that Collingwood would show our boys what leadership looks like and he was spot on.
What happened to the "building leadership density" that Bolton kept talking about ? Probably took it with him to the Pies when he emptied his desk.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-22-2023
(05-22-2023, 12:28 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Just watched the 1st half again. Some observations.Agree with all those ins and outs, we need to add some youth and exuberance to this group.Just send em care free and let em enjoy footy again, play school yard style for a qtr or two. At the minute, it looks to be a chore for them. Defensively we were poor most of the first and some of the second, we were better after that (ie the address with their line coach suggested that to me at least, something worked). Positioning and body work was terrible early. As I said, I reckon Weiters being so down on confidence is killing us.
JSOS into the ruck cost us at least 3 goals.
Cerra's kick into the forward line, spotting up Durdin, was so dumb I couldn't believe it... guess who Durdin's nearest Rottingwood opponent was? Cox. 1 metre player versus 5 metre player.
The number of times we kicked it to their tallest bloke on the ground (Cox) was astonishing.
We handed Moore a record number of intercepts with predictable/lazy inside 50 kicks, but I understand as there were just no more options other than H and Charles.
Acres foot disposal under pressure gave Rottingwood too many looks.
Ed... too many times - kick'nhope.
Look much better when Charles and H play well apart, eg one of them playing high half forward leading up to the aggot and the other remaining deep.
We did a lot right, just critical disposal errors and/or choice errors.
2 blatant 50s did not go our way.
I don't get the criticisms of our backline, the delivery in waves into our D50 was at times indefensible. The up-field pressure was zilch.
Hollands just doesn't hurt the opposition enough with his disposals.
For the Fluffy Ducks game: Out - Ed, JSOS, Hollands, Young & Durdin
In: TDK (for JSOS), Binns (for Hollands), Kemp (for Young), Cowan (for Ed) & Dow (for Durdin). Dow & Chugga changing midfield/half forward.
(2 small forwards only - Owies & Motlop).
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 05-22-2023
Voss presser was pretty good this week.
Wasn't distracted by the media focus on the tall forwards, goal kicking, etc., etc., knows the problems surrounding on-ball defensive pressure, transitions, etc., etc.. You just have to watch our games and observe the lack of instant intensity when we turn it over to get a clear understanding of that, last season we were frantic, this season we drop the head as first reaction.
Voss had a nice fire in the belly I thought, good to see him bristle reminded me of his playing days!
He should get the team living by the Necromongers ideology from The Chronicles of Riddick series, "You keep what you kill!"
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 05-22-2023
How much of last weekend's effort was the result of Mathieson gobbing off, which leaves the club feeling disjointed and sour?
Interesting to see Anthony Pratt at the game, but not surprising given the Pratt Family is actually 50 / 50 Blues & Filth.