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Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - Mav - 07-20-2022
It might be argued that failure to crack down on smaller players attempting to create head high contact discriminates against tall players. If you’re a 200cm guy trying to tackle a 175 cm guy, it’s already difficult to avoid giving away a free kick. But when the 175 cm guy wriggles around to try to create some apparent head to bicep contact, it’s impossible. Maybe the AFL should ban tall players from tackling to avoid a wave of head to bicep concussions?
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - madbluboy - 07-20-2022
(07-20-2022, 01:59 AM)Mav link Wrote:It might be argued that failure to crack down on smaller players attempting to create head high contact discriminates against tall players. If you’re a 200cm guy trying to tackle a 175 cm guy, it’s already difficult to avoid giving away a free kick. But when the 175 cm guy wriggles around to try to create some apparent head to bicep contact, it’s impossible. Maybe the AFL should ban tall players from tackling to avoid a wave of head to bicep concussions?
Maybe we should just ban all players under 6 foot. They're a danger to themselves.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - Mav - 07-20-2022
Or maybe the AFL could discourage players under 6 foot from being a danger to themselves. Trying to draw head contact shouldn’t be rewarded. Neil Sache did it by lowering his head into the chest of an oncoming tackler and he spent a lifetime in a wheelchair as a result.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - LP - 07-20-2022
(07-20-2022, 02:34 AM)Mav date Wrote:Or maybe the AFL could discourage players under 6 foot from being a danger to themselves. Trying to draw head contact shouldn’t be rewarded. Neil Sache did it by lowering his head into the chest of an oncoming tackler and he spent a lifetime in a wheelchair as a result.There is too much subjectivity in the way it is implemented, and the opposite as well which I think is even more proof there is some change needed.
For example, when did you last see Cripps get a free kick for high contact? Last weekend while breaking away from a boundary line stoppage I saw Cripps get hit high(neck / jaw) twice in succession, palm slaps only but even so, and he still didn't get a free! After he disposed of the ball he just held his jaw and shook his head!
Should Cripps have done a Menegola, and thrown his arm in the air while twisting to flop on his back like a fish?
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - kruddler - 07-20-2022
Ask Ginnevan (and pickett) where he learned to do that.
If either of them don't say from watching players like Selwood, then they are liars.
The AFL shot themselves in the foot by not doing something about this earlier.
Selwood has been doing this for 350-odd games over 16 years. All the kids being drafted today wouldn't remember a 'pre-shrug' kind of game. They've grown up with it their whole lives and NOW the AFL want to change it.
Too little too late.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - RiverRat - 07-20-2022
(07-19-2022, 11:04 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Every game has its 'howlers' but in our game I saw one classic howler that a Pussies' player got away with which also resulted in a goal. Forward pocket running along the boundary with a BlueBagger holding him and he bounced the ball then shrugged the tackle... dropping the ball, but no free. Wonder if anyone else saw it. They don't come much more obvious than that.
22 is a very good umpire - just ask him.
I saw it Baggers and I agree with you about #22 FIGJAM
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - NudeNut - 07-20-2022
https://www.afl.com.au/news/802959/-he-gets-treated-harshly-dimma-wants-umps-to-give-nank-a-fair-go
Wonder if we ever make a call to the Umpiring department on how Crippa gets held every week without the ball?
What do they say about squeaky wheels?
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-20-2022
(07-20-2022, 05:46 AM)NudeNut link Wrote:https://www.afl.com.au/news/802959/-he-gets-treated-harshly-dimma-wants-umps-to-give-nank-a-fair-goNankervis along with Cotchin is Richmonds biggest sniper, amazing how many elbows and knees he manages to land on opposition players while feigning it was accidental, he got away with it for the glory years along with decking players off the ball and its good to see now he is being pinged by umps and giving away costly frees and fifties.....
Wonder if we ever make a call to the Umpiring department on how Crippa gets held every week without the ball?
What do they say about squeaky wheels?
Cripps has been held, blocked/shepherded out of contests illegally since Noah built the ark but umps just see him as big enough to handle the manhandling and work though it, thats what happens when you are a superior footballer.
Kouta was another who opposition teams just illegally held and blocked him from getting to the ball and then eventually had to resort to injuring him because he was too athletic for his own good.
This is why Greg Williams took matters into his own hands and belted opposition players week after week to get the dirty scumbag taggers to stop their illegal ways...
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - LP - 07-20-2022
(07-20-2022, 06:34 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Nankervis along with Cotchin is Richmonds biggest sniper, amazing how many elbows and knees he manages to land on opposition players while feigning it was accidental, he got away with it for the glory years along with decking players off the ball and its good to see now he is being pinged by umps and giving away costly frees and fifties.....Whingers are winners.
You know I've written this many times here, Dimma and Scott are A-Grade Gold Star whingers who through making off-field commentary influence the way umpires adjudicate the games they play.
That commentary also pumps up the crowds, and makes the umpires become subconsciously sympathetic to the cause.
No matter what the umpires or AFL officials may claim, the umpires cannot unhear what Dimma and Scott say and the umpires are not immune to the influence of that commentary.
Re: AFL Rd 18 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Geelong - Lods - 07-20-2022
This just has the feeling of a bit of a schemozzle.
We'll hear the howls when a player like Selwood continues to get away with it.
We'll hear the howls when one of our blokes isn't rewarded.
It's like the dissention rule.
It puts a burden on the umpire that is very subjective.
Have a look back at the recent discussion here and you'll see that two people can have a totally different opinion of exactly the same situation.
I'll go against the grain here....
To me a high tackle is a high tackle and should be penalised.
Introduce a whole range of options and caveats and it gets very confusing.
No doubt it will influence the results of some games.