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Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 06-18-2021
(06-18-2021, 09:30 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I'm pretty sure Teague has done the coaching course.
I can't see the link, but someone with HS access might be able to confirm...
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/six-assistants-locked-in-for-afls-level-4-coaching-course-as-they-eye-senior-gig/news-story/640055e06e7f6d7ab74ac4f56502365b
You could be right, but his name isn't on the last list of all Level 4 graduates that I have seen. The AFL seems to have backed away from it's intention to make the Level 4 mandatory for senior coaches.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 06-18-2021
(06-18-2021, 07:09 AM)DJC link Wrote:I think it's the latter Paul.
Every time I watch our games on TV, the expert comments blokes have a picnic on our poor defensive set ups, players ball-watching, poor positioning (or players badly out of position), not recognising opposition players' strengths (ie allowing left footers to get on their left), ad nauseum. Bolts had a more defensive gameplan but those same problems were still evident.
It's my belief that our players have never learned how to play AFL team defence and, consequently, we rely on individual efforts and winning one on one contests. Imagine how good Weiters would be if he was in Richmond's backline with five blokes who know how to play team defence.
I'm not sure that it's something that coaches can fix, although they should be able to address the basics. I can't help but think that our defence would more effective if we had beaten Brisbane to Luke Hodge. Daisy may have played a similar role, but not with the same impact and effectiveness.
Anyway, I hope Teague reads the article and takes some action to fix the problems.
Very easy to pick apart what went wrong with replays.
Reality is there's two teams determining that.
(06-18-2021, 08:08 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Yes guys, it's the old adage, "if you want to win, first you have to make sure you don't lose".
The art of war by sun tsu's lessons vary but you need to know a lot.
Here is one quote:
Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength.
He did also state:
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. #
Chang Yu said: "Knowing the enemy enables you to take the offensive, knowing yourself enables you to stand on the defensive." He adds: "Attack is the secret of defense; defense is the planning of an attack." It would be hard to find a better epitome of the root-principle of war.
I think we are still learning about ourselves which is why I'm not worried about opposition focus.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 06-18-2021
(06-18-2021, 01:30 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Very easy to pick apart what went wrong with replays.
Reality is there's two teams determining that.
The art of war by sun tsu's lessons vary but you need to know a lot.
Here is one quote:
Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength.
He did also state:
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. #
Chang Yu said: "Knowing the enemy enables you to take the offensive, knowing yourself enables you to stand on the defensive." He adds: "Attack is the secret of defense; defense is the planning of an attack." It would be hard to find a better epitome of the root-principle of war.
I think we are still learning about ourselves which is why I'm not worried about opposition focus.
Who is watching replays Thry? I don't, and I suspect that our players and coaches don't watch them either.
Sun Tzu was a smart cookie, but he knew nothing about footy. I'd prefer to listen to the likes of Luke Hodge and Jimmy Bartel; they know what they're talking about.
And it's not about opposition focus, it's about football basics in 2021.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 06-18-2021
(06-18-2021, 01:41 PM)DJC link Wrote:Who is watching replays Thry? I don't, and I suspect that our players and coaches don't watch them either.
Sun Tzu was a smart cookie, but he knew nothing about footy. I'd prefer to listen to the likes of Luke Hodge and Jimmy Bartel; they know what they're talking about.
And it's not about opposition focus, it's about football basics in 2021.
Nah I was thinking about how we setup, what the goal is, and what actually occurs are two very different beasts.
They are happy to look at what doesnt work defensively, but ignore the fact that defense and offense are linked in different ways.
I.e. we setup offensively instead of defensively, and then our opposition has to win the contest to exploit that. If we setup defensively, then even if we win the contest we can't make use of it and our opposition are still going to setup to take advantage of that.
Our team suffers from mentality issues not execution problems.
You change the way you setup and it makes life harder for both of you. We don't need to make it harder for ourselves to score just to limit the damage if we are beaten.
Those same experts were lauding Mitch Duncan setting up offensive side of the contest against Richmond which works to exploit them setting up offensively.
If Geelong are doing this then what we need to do is getting better at recognising when to do what.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - LP - 06-19-2021
(06-18-2021, 10:10 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Our team suffers from mentality issues not execution problems.It does not have to be one or the other, it can be both, and one can be contributing to the other like a feedback loop! ;D
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 06-19-2021
Weather is lousy. Windy and intermittent rain. Should be an ugly old scrap.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Thryleon - 06-19-2021
(06-19-2021, 12:14 AM)LP link Wrote:It does not have to be one or the other, it can be both, and one can be contributing to the other like a feedback loop! ;D
Very true.
Still, id rather we make teams beat us in an effort to beat them, rather than lineup to negate them hoping to win.
Its a small but poignant change in philosophy. Of course we can always do both, but thats about learning about situations.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 06-19-2021
Newnes is our sub. Ash for the Giants.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - Gointocarlton - 06-19-2021
(06-19-2021, 08:33 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Newnes is our sub. Ash for the Giants.Surely we can use the med sub on someone other this bloke.
A kid? Help the ex skipper crawl to 300.
Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - kruddler - 06-19-2021
(06-19-2021, 08:38 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Surely we can use the med sub on someone other this bloke.Are we a charity?
A kid? Help the ex skipper crawl to 300.
Newnes can cover just about anyone should we get an injury besides the talls.
Imagine Murphy having to cover a half back flank injury?
Send a good lesson to the entire list. Do the 1%ers and you'll get picked. Don't and you won't.....regardless of how many games you've played.