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Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-05-2021
(06-04-2021, 11:15 PM)Lods link Wrote:It's a big unknown.Comes back to culture, tail wagging the dog so to speak. If feel like a broken record but successful teams have players who do whatever the coaches asks without dropping the bottom lip.
Are they really unhappy?
How are the players connecting off-field?
Are there divisions between the group...little cliques. (older v younger, possibles v probables, longer at the club v newer)
You can understand a fair bit of unhappiness around the fringes.
Some players being given games when others think it should be their spot.
How is that manifesting itself in terms of dynamics around the club.
It doesn't seem that obvious on field.
Players seem to get around one another after goals, or console others who make mistakes.
But who knows?
If such divisions exist it could be a factor in some of the inconsistent performances.
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - DJC - 06-05-2021
(06-04-2021, 12:14 PM)northernblue link Wrote:Too many high jumpers and shadows methinks…
Absolutely!
I would be very disappointed if Murphy wasn’t disappointed about being dropped.
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - kruddler - 06-05-2021
(06-05-2021, 01:14 AM)DJC link Wrote:Absolutely!Exactly what i was going to say. Shows he still has a passion for competing!
I would be very disappointed if Murphy wasn’t disappointed about being dropped.
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - madbluboy - 06-05-2021
(06-05-2021, 01:16 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Exactly what i was going to say. Shows he still has a passion for competing!
Unless you don't like the player then you can call him a sook.
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - cookie2 - 06-05-2021
(06-05-2021, 01:14 AM)DJC link Wrote:Absolutely!
I would be very disappointed if Murphy wasn’t disappointed about being dropped.
Yes, he actually seemed quite indignant, good on him.
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 06-05-2021
(06-04-2021, 12:34 PM)PaulP date Wrote:Having been on these forums for 15+ years, it's quite obvious to me that supporters are rarely in the best position to judge which players are valuable, what goes on behind the scenes etc. They have players they don't like (a position always reached by simple, objective observation 8)) , and they interpret situations accordingly.The tell is that they never or very rarely credit certain players, even when they have outstanding games or moments, to them that player that they hate is analogous to how Carlton is to BT, Ling or Darcy!
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 06-05-2021
(06-05-2021, 01:16 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Exactly what i was going to say. Shows he still has a passion for competing!Pity he doesn't translate that so called "competitive passion" when he's on the field eh? Such a sook...
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - townsendcalling - 06-05-2021
All I’ll say is ‘compare the pair’
Mark Murphy / Nathan Jones
Both ex captains
Both one club player through hard times
Both 300 games players (give or take!)
Both probably had chances to go elsewhere
Both no longer walk up starts in their respective teams.
Not sure Jones would react like that……
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - capcom - 06-05-2021
Very observant townsend
Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 06-05-2021
(06-05-2021, 01:24 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Unless you don't like the player then you can call him a sook.Ive have always liked Murph and have backed him in on most occasions when criticised by many, he sooked it up IMO, dont care what anyone says.