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Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 10:43 AM)LP link Wrote:There is a thought that the Twins need reuniting before they'll come good, should that be at Carlton or Norp?

Done....Harry for Ben Brown....


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 09:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:GTC...JK was a hard worker and for sure has Harry covered for intensity etc....I dont know anything about Harry's work ethic etc or how bright he is.....Yep he does look lazy or laconic which ever way you take how he runs/contests etc but he does also have a lot of talent IMO and SOS must have done his due diligence on his mental approach to the game and off field stuff etc..
I looked at another lazy player with not much between the ears today in Jake Stringer and he kicked 4 goals for Essendon and won them the game, now I'm not saying you want a team of lazy bums who might get away with taking short cuts but if their talent is sufficient to win you games of football I am happy to extend the boundaries of the culture to fit them in.
We dont know if Harry is that good yet but I'd like to play him to find out before we fark him off.....

Its a bit like Ed Curnow IMO, Ed is a great trainer/role model etc etc but Sidebottom and Higgins have slaughtered him these past two weeks and been BOG.....its great how Ed presents every season and how hard he tries but the facts are honest triers/good clubmen can only take you so far and a lazy player with more ability can take you further....you need a balance and we lack genuine talent so Harry needs trialling IMO..
I understand exactly what you mean. Point is, if he was ready to play this year, he would have by now. Clearly there is something he isn't doing, we dont know what is is, the MC do however, he knows it and the rest of playing group would know it. When you set a culture where games must be earned (albeit slightly different KPIs/criteria for different players), you cant make exceptions. Are we screaming out for a KPF? My bloody oath we are. Is the coach itching to get him into the side? My word he is. He isnt playing for a reason, watching him today I can see why. Mate if he gets a call up and lights it up or even just contributes, or throws some weight around, I will be as happy as a pig in s h i t, for him and for the club. All I am saying is I will back the club in on his non selection ATM. Take Weiters for example, not setting the world on fire but the MC are backing him in, why is that do you think?


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - flyboy77 - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 10:51 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I understand exactly what you mean. Point is, if he was ready to play this year, he would have by now. Clearly there is something he isn't doing, we dont know what is is, the MC do however, he knows it and the rest of playing group would know it. When you set a culture where games must be earned (albeit slightly different KPIs/criteria for different players), you cant make exceptions. Are we screaming out for a KPF? My bloody oath we are. Is the coach itching to get him into the side? My word he is. He isnt playing for a reason, watching him today I can see why. Mate if he gets a call up and lights it up or even just contributes, or throws some weight around, I will be as happy as a pig in s h i t, for him and for the club. All I am saying is I will back the club in on his non selection ATM. Take Weiters for example, not setting the world on fire but the MC are backing him in, why is that do you think?

You're promoting different rules for different folks...

Big, big no no....


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - LP - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 10:51 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I understand exactly what you mean. Point is, if he was ready to play this year, he would have by now. Clearly there is something he isn't doing, we dont know what is is, the MC do however, he knows it and the rest of playing group would know it.

Posters have to check out the replay of today's 1st Qtr in the VFL, you'll see McKay's shortcomings if you keep an eye on things behind the play. He's miles away from the AFL, he'd be lucky if he's achieving half the required intensity.

SoJ gives the intensity, so does Weitering, both are horribly out of form. It was probably correct on effort but I thought it sent a very bad message bringing SoJ back in despite his excellent work ethic, because it looked to me that others deserved a crack.

I also think Kreuzer being injured has been fortunate for Levi, because at the moment it's hard to see him out of the side for reasons that are not related to his play. Which seems to make it difficult for the others to fit in. If Kreuzer is out things may be forced to change.


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - kruddler - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 10:43 AM)LP link Wrote:There is a thought that the Twins need reuniting before they'll come good, should that be at Carlton or Norp?

To do that deal would probably cost one Weitering, a Williamson and say a Polson, or a couple of Kerridge types.

They can have him for a 1st rounder.

I'm pretty sure i've heard them prefer to play against eachother though.


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - LP - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 11:06 AM)kruddler link Wrote:They can have him for a 1st rounder.

I'm pretty sure i've heard them prefer to play against eachother though.

I think that may come from a desire not to compete with each other for the same spot. But their whole junior career has been one as a KPD and the other a KPF. They do the twin stuff, like they know what the other will do and where they will be. The thought is in the noise of an AFL game it could be a real advantage, they may have a sum that is bigger than the individual contributions.


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - shawny - 04-15-2018

What’s the go with lang?

Haven’t heard anything about him.

McKay said on his Tuesday injury rapt about 2 weeks ago he was a test. Did he play today?


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - Thryleon - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 11:19 AM)shawny link Wrote:What’s the go with lang?

Haven’t heard anything about him.

McKay said on his Tuesday injury rapt about 2 weeks ago he was a test. Did he play today?

Nope.

We got him at a discount because he was damaged goods, and everyone on here can't accept that this might be the case.  He'll come good eventually but Geelong only traded him because their time is now and Lang is set to have a poor 2018.


Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - shawny - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 11:22 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Nope.

We got him at a discount because he was damaged goods, and everyone on here can't accept that this might be the case.  He'll come good eventually but Geelong only traded him because their time is now and Lang is set to have a poor 2018.

Geez.

If true the club feels we are in a position to go backwards this year and it’s ok. Cause that’s whats going to happen if we get nothing from Lang. Gibbs will turn into a massive loss.

Then again not as dumb as selecting Mullet. Everyone comments he is a good kick yet his rarely hits a target and usually coughs it up when there is no pressure on him. His kicking is woeful. Hate to see his weakness if kicking is his strength.

And O’Shea and Shaw are other inclusions that make little sense.





Re: 2018 VFL Rd 2: NBs vs North Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-15-2018

(04-15-2018, 11:22 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Nope.

We got him at a discount because he was damaged goods, and everyone on here can't accept that this might be the case.  He'll come good eventually but Geelong only traded him because their time is now and Lang is set to have a poor 2018.

Think Lang was part of the money that had to go to Ablett and they couldnt afford him given how tight things are cp wise down at the cattery..