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Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - PaulP - 03-23-2018
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-grey-area-blues-under-fire-for-new-look-20180323-p4z5x9.html
I don't like them either. Like some place in industrial North England, where the whole town seems enveloped in grey soot.
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - DJC - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 05:51 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-grey-area-blues-under-fire-for-new-look-20180323-p4z5x9.html
I don't like them either. Like some place in industrial North England, where the whole town seems enveloped in grey soot.
I like them
If we have to wear a clash jumper, there's really no reason why we have to stick with the traditional white shorts (and I believe the white shorts = away strip link was dropped long ago when clubs started wearing shorts that matched their jumper colour). The chamois panels (first suggested by Fev) could make a game-winning difference and Nike are paying us to wear them!
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - laj - 03-23-2018
I try not to get too wound up about first games of the year. Some hit the ground running, others have shockers, badly needing a game to get their bearings again. I'll look to see how they all go next week.
Interestingly, the score last year in this game was 20.12 to 14.5. Only difference was the game was never close unlike last night.
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 03:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Isn't this the same line Jimbo uses about Levi ? Jack had a terrible game last night. 2 tackles, 6 disposals, no score at all. 2nd last in AFL fantasy points. The stench is worse than those stinkhorn mushrooms growing in my front garden.
Before last nights game, Jack was =2nd on our list in terms of goals/game.
0.93 goals a game. Same as Charlie Curnow.
Only person better is Casboult, 1.12 goals a game.
FWIW, Matty Wright is 0.82 goals/game.
So Jack had a bad game. He is still amongst the best forwards we have on our list.
Yes, its the same line people use with Casboult. Problem is there, Casboult has been on the list for 8 years! Jack in his 3rd year. Big difference.
Some other stats you might like to compare.
Levi's first game was as a 22yo (22y 130d to be precise)
Jacks was as an 18yo. His game last night he was 20y 100d old.
Jack has played 29 games now. When Levi played his 29th game he was 24 years old. Jack is 4 years ahead of Levi in terms of development.
Sure, keep comparing them if you want.
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - PaulP - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 06:25 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Before last nights game, Jack was =2nd on our list in terms of goals/game.
0.93 goals a game. Same as Charlie Curnow.
Only person better is Casboult, 1.12 goals a game.
FWIW, Matty Wright is 0.82 goals/game.
So Jack had a bad game. He is still amongst the best forwards we have on our list.
Yes, its the same line people use with Casboult. Problem is there, Casboult has been on the list for 8 years! Jack in his 3rd year. Big difference.
Some other stats you might like to compare.
Levi's first game was as a 22yo (22y 130d to be precise)
Jacks was as an 18yo. His game last night he was 20y 100d old.
Jack has played 29 games now. When Levi played his 29th game he was 24 years old. Jack is 4 years ahead of Levi in terms of development.
Sure, keep comparing them if you want.
If Jack is "among the best forwards on our list", based on goals/game, then Levi must be the best, no ?
Ordinariness has nothing to with age - Jack and Levi are both average footballers, they were average when they started their careers, and they will be average when they finish.
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - Bear - 03-23-2018
Wright has kicked 57 goals from 45 games for the Blues...
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 03:33 AM)LP link Wrote:Is that consistent with your Weitering stance?My Weitering stance is not specifically about Weitering at all.
What has SoJ done to justify the support, compared to Weitering's first season?
I don't know if its an old way of thinking or not, but it seems people have a 'best 22' and that is that.
IMO, you pick your team that gives you the best chance of winning that week. So the 'best 22' one week could be completely different to the 'best 22' the following week and that is based on your opposition and what it takes to beat them.
My 'stance' on Weitering is that there are times where him being in the side can not just hurt our chances of winning the game, but assist the opposition in winning it.
Last night, in the in-game thread, a couple people were pointing out how many shots on goal the tigers got when Weitering was the direct opponent. Weitering was switched around trying to find a matchup (wasn't one for him) and the tigers continually went through his man to get a shot on goal.
Now if the opposition is just going to bomb it long and hope, sure, Weitering zoning off is an asset.
If the opposition is too smart for that and has a bunch of small forwards who can lead, mark and run off weitering, he is a liability.
That doesn't mean you drop him next week, you look at the matchups.
Its no different to say coming up against Sandilands in the ruck. You can attempt to let Kreuzer fight it out one on one with him, or you can bring in a backup ruck, run him around and rotate fresh players that jump into him all game. He gets sore from the excessive contact, gets blown up from chasing tail, or allows you a free man because he isn't chasing. Its a match up thing. Horses for courses.
All the players are chess pieces. I use them as i see fit to win the game.
One day your queen will get you the win, one day a rook. One day, it might even be a pawn. You use the pieces you have, to get you an advantage and win.
Weitering against Richmond, was never going to get us the win, but could've cost us victory. Next week, he might be the piece we need to win and someone like Byrne could be the liability
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 06:38 AM)Bear link Wrote:Wright has kicked 57 goals from 45 games for the Blues...
and 115 from 138 in his career.
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - kruddler - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 06:36 AM)PaulP link Wrote:If Jack is "among the best forwards on our list", based on goals/game, then Levi must be the best, no ?
Ordinariness has nothing to with age - Jack and Levi are both average footballers, they were average when they started their careers, and they will be average when they finish.
...and Denis Armfield was ordinary too, but he got picked because he always gave 100% and never died wondering.
Jack, ordinary, still busts his ar$e. Same as Daisy.
Levi, ordinary, might not require a shower after the game.
Re: 2018 Rd 1 Post Game Party: Carlton vs Richmond - LP - 03-23-2018
(03-23-2018, 06:25 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Jacks was as an 18yo. His game last night he was 20y 100d old.
Hmm, almost exactly thirty days younger than Weitering, people seem to forget that one!