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Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - PaulP - 07-17-2017

(07-17-2017, 07:04 AM)Bear link Wrote:On a slightly different note, saw Cripps pre-match with Simon White.

Got alongside Cripps to compare height... I'm about 192cms... he towered over me... I knew he was tall, but he is a big unit!

Wow -192cm. Half your luck.


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - JonHenry - 07-17-2017

I can't understand how we can kick into the opposition so many times. Simpson has been bad for this the last two weeks.

We rarely alert the umpires when an opposition player encroaches the 10 metre area. They creep in close and the umpires do SFA. Do our players lack the confidence?

Kruezer played ruck v Bontampelli many times and had ample opportunity to crash into him. Rarely happened including a mark where Kruezer was blocked. He should have taken him out and won a free kick.

JJ was given far more reign than any other club has allowed him for a month.

We need some aggression and ruthlessness


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 07-17-2017

(07-17-2017, 10:12 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:I can't understand how we can kick into the opposition so many times. Simpson has been bad for this the last two weeks.

We rarely alert the umpires when an opposition player encroaches the 10 metre area. They creep in close and the umpires do SFA. Do our players lack the confidence?

Kruezer played ruck v Bontampelli many times and had ample opportunity to crash into him. Rarely happened including a mark where Kruezer was blocked. He should have taken him out and won a free kick.

JJ was given far more reign than any other club has allowed him for a month.

We need some aggression and ruthlessness
This very thing crossed my mind during the game. Clubs that have after him have shown he goes into his shell and has nil impact on the game. We are far to nice and accomodating, this is were a ruthless kent like Hodge could help our blokes as a coach.


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - flyboy77 - 07-17-2017

(07-17-2017, 10:12 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:I can't understand how we can kick into the opposition so many times. Simpson has been bad for this the last two weeks.

We rarely alert the umpires when an opposition player encroaches the 10 metre area. They creep in close and the umpires do SFA. Do our players lack the confidence?

Kruezer played ruck v Bontampelli many times and had ample opportunity to crash into him. Rarely happened including a mark where Kruezer was blocked. He should have taken him out and won a free kick.

JJ was given far more reign than any other club has allowed him for a month.

We need some aggression and ruthlessness

Amen, one reason why I am a Simon White fan. Reckon he could be a 'nasty' fella if given some licence....


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - Gointocarlton - 07-17-2017

(07-17-2017, 10:39 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Amen, one reason why I am a Simon White fan. Reckon he could be a 'nasty' fella if given some licence....
He plays for Carlton, he'd get rubbed out for looking at an opponent cross eyed.


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-17-2017

(07-17-2017, 10:12 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:I can't understand how we can kick into the opposition so many times. Simpson has been bad for this the last two weeks.

We rarely alert the umpires when an opposition player encroaches the 10 metre area. They creep in close and the umpires do SFA. Do our players lack the confidence?

Kruezer played ruck v Bontampelli many times and had ample opportunity to crash into him. Rarely happened including a mark where Kruezer was blocked. He should have taken him out and won a free kick.

JJ was given far more reign than any other club has allowed him for a month.

We need some aggression and ruthlessness

Bontempelli surprised me with his size...while smaller in height he looked heavier than Kruezer in the upper body...banging into ruckman isnt Kruezers style.
re: JJ..yep we dont man players up very well at all....Lamb had JJ but after the initial push and shove stuff wore off he got away from him..our mids get plenty of ball but rarely play on their men and the opposition mids usually get plenty of ball too.
Player accountability even though we play a extra man or two zone defense isnt one of our strong points Docherty and Simpson rebound but they dont defend much....



Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - laj - 07-18-2017

(07-17-2017, 10:12 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:I can't understand how we can kick into the opposition so many times. Simpson has been bad for this the last two weeks.

We rarely alert the umpires when an opposition player encroaches the 10 metre area. They creep in close and the umpires do SFA. Do our players lack the confidence?

Kruezer played ruck v Bontampelli many times and had ample opportunity to crash into him. Rarely happened including a mark where Kruezer was blocked. He should have taken him out and won a free kick.

JJ was given far more reign than any other club has allowed him for a month.

We need some aggression and ruthlessness

We had a bit of that aggression a few weeks ago when we would target players, re:Ablett. At the point too our skills were alot better too. We were getting very Hawthorn-like. We've dropped off all that the last couple of weeks. We need to get all that back. Bolton certainly wasn't pleased with our ball use last week. Sometimes that can be focus too and we certainly weren't switched on mentally last week.


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - blue4life - 07-18-2017

(07-18-2017, 12:14 AM)laj link Wrote:We had a bit of that aggression a few weeks ago when we would target players, re:Ablett. At the point too our skills were alot better too. We were getting very Hawthorn-like. We've dropped off all that the last couple of weeks. We need to get all that back. Bolton certainly wasn't pleased with our ball use last week. Sometimes that can be focus too and we certainly weren't switched on mentally last week.

No side can cover half a dozen B and C graders.


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - PaulP - 07-18-2017

(07-18-2017, 12:14 AM)laj link Wrote:We had a bit of that aggression a few weeks ago when we would target players, re:Ablett. At the point too our skills were alot better too. We were getting very Hawthorn-like. We've dropped off all that the last couple of weeks. We need to get all that back. Bolton certainly wasn't pleased with our ball use last week. Sometimes that can be focus too and we certainly weren't switched on mentally last week.

if we're going to show how tough we are, I'd much prefer we did it the Swans way - playing tough, hard at it footy, head over the ball etc. Targeting kids (Mills) or nice guys (Ablett), cheap shots behind the play etc., is precisely the sort of thing we've been whinging about for ages.


Re: Rd 17: Post Game Disinterested Dissections: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs - DJC - 07-18-2017

I liked the way we targeted Jordan Lewis  Smile