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Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - PassIt2Carrots - 04-19-2015
(04-19-2015, 01:10 AM)Thryleon link Wrote: Ellard is the same proposition as those state league players everyone wanted to recruit.
He is a depth player who has survived on our list through the sheer mismanagement of our list and our clubs inability to bring through top notch draftees, and develop them appropriately.
Yesterday he kicked a very important goal from an acute angle to bring us back into touching distance, and is an honest performer who's worst footy is usually good enough. He was one who won his contest against West Coast.
I grade Ellard on a sliding scale. He isn't a great player but has forged a pretty good career for himself and actually plays for the jumper and his mates.
Think about this, if he is so bad, what does it say about the rest of the guys we have gotten rid of? Clearly Ellard wants to be here and does whatever he can to help, and that is important to consider in the scheme of things. His tackle on a big man yesterday was good to watch.
I get your point, but this is a ruthless, cut throat industry that has no room for sentiment. Ellard has had his chance, and he han't been held back by injury or been unlucky. He's proven to not be up to it.
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - Professer E - 04-19-2015
I don't have a problem with Lewis, he is a damn hard competitor who normally makes the ball the main object. Personally I'd have offered him a million a year and the captaincy to come across. Don't get me started on the other sniper though.
Look, I'm not condoning on field violence but there has been stuff happening around the edges ("gamesmanship") for a long time... and the juicers have been masters at it going back to the 1980's. Invariably we've been on the wrong end of it. Chappy has been one that has thrived on dishing out jumper punches and umpire bothering until he gets what he wants.... basically an on field bully. Carlton is the cleanest, least aggressive list in the AFL and I for one am pleased that somebody actually pushed back for once. Yes it was ill disciplined and beating them on the scoreboard is the ultimate revenge but enough's enough.... maybe it was line in the sand day?
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-19-2015
(04-19-2015, 01:37 AM)Professer E link Wrote: I don't have a problem with Lewis, he is a damn hard competitor who normally makes the ball the main object. Personally I'd have offered him a million a year and the captaincy to come across. Don't get me started on the other sniper though.
Look, I'm not condoning on field violence but there has been stuff happening around the edges ("gamesmanship") for a long time... and the juicers have been masters at it going back to the 1980's. Invariably we've been on the wrong end of it. Chappy has been one that has thrived on dishing out jumper punches and umpire bothering until he gets what he wants.... basically an on field bully. Carlton is the cleanest, least aggressive list in the AFL and I for one am pleased that somebody actually pushed back for once. Yes it was ill disciplined and beating them on the scoreboard is the ultimate revenge but enough's enough.... maybe it was line in the sand day?
x2....Yarran showed he wont cop it from an old player trying to take shortcuts by being a thug and it cost might him a week or two but at least
we showed we wont be bullied..he should have whacked Melksham as well...dirty little no talent sniper that he is was elbowing running into our blokes all day
and its time to get Richie Vandenberg down to the club next Essendon game and show our list how its done..hello to Adam Mcphee and Andrew Welsh.
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - shadesy - 04-19-2015
Ellard is not doing enough to keep his spot, when we have Whiley, Boekhurst and Graham playing well in the VFL.
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - laj - 04-19-2015
(04-19-2015, 02:40 AM)shadesy link Wrote: Ellard is not doing enough to keep his spot, when we have Whiley, Boekhurst and Graham playing well in the VFL.
Yes, agree, especially if a side is going to rebuild.
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - IvanAwfulbigone - 04-19-2015
From what I saw I didn't get any "light at the end of the tunnel" feeling. To me it was same old, same old.
Wood was my BOG till he tired in the last, Juddy had to show everyone how it was done with 3 opposition players on his back, and Cripps and Docherty showed they are the future.
Byrne's first game was depressing because his 3 or 4 kicks were purposeful, effective, constructive, AND ACCURATE. This from a kid who didn't grow up playing the code. Yet time and time again, as has been the pattern now for 10 years, his senior clubmates turned the ball over at crucial times with poorly thought out actions or reactions.
Watching it on TV I was disgusted at how often there would be a Carlton player closest to a 'free' footy yet a Juiced up Fruit Loop would come diving in from nowhere to take possession relegating the formerly closest Blues player to a spectator. The player we all know who CANNOT be tarred with this brush is Simmo. But, it pains me to say it, Kade's decision making and disposal at crucial times is deplorable. As others have pointed out before - we either have players with no heart who have silky skills, or bull terriers with no skills.
Even Yarran's haymaker, which is being lauded by some, was a lazy act. Much rather see him put his body on the line when there's no hope of him gaining a stat but which will benefit the team in some other way. CheatsFC are pathetic. It was unacceptable to lose to this mob.
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - cookie2 - 04-19-2015
(04-19-2015, 02:40 AM)shadesy link Wrote: Ellard is not doing enough to keep his spot, when we have Whiley, Boekhurst and Graham playing well in the VFL.
I agree re. the longer term but I reckon he was probably good enough to hold on for next week. His eye-catching goal from the boundary would have certainly helped his cause.
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - Brettie - 04-19-2015
(04-18-2015, 10:47 AM)PaulP link Wrote: Chris, how was the auction ?
Perhaps a question which could've been asked via PM perhaps? FMD.......
How was dinner last night? Just thought I'd ask......
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - Brettie - 04-19-2015
(04-19-2015, 12:37 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote: Unfortunately, Yarran's actions were anything but 'controlled' aggression!!
Agree - but I thought it was going too far in the Hun this morning when he was called an imbecile in the 'What's Hot - What's Not' centre page spread of the sports section. Thought that was poor.
Re: Round 3 Carlton v Essendon-Post match thread - madbluboy - 04-19-2015
Ellard brought good defensive pressure.