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Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-16-2022
Its all very Trumpesque, they will be raiding ScoMo's house next and fingerprinting the kids....
Havent got much time for the bloke as he is as slippery as they come and his next job will probably be as a used car salesman but I hope we are not going to waste a lot of tax payers money and time trying to pin his ar$e to the front door of the lodge in an effort to score political points when there are a lot more urgent matters pending..
Re: General Discussions - northernblue - 08-16-2022
(08-16-2022, 11:34 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Its all very Trumpesque, they will be raiding ScoMo's house next and fingerprinting the kids....
Havent got much time for the bloke as he is as slippery as they come and his next job will probably be as a used car salesman but I hope we are not going to waste a lot of tax payers money and time trying to pin his ar$e to the front door of the lodge in an effort to score political points when there are a lot more urgent matters pending..
Yes but…
This sort of shiite should not be swept under the carpet.
Re: General Discussions - DJC - 08-16-2022
(08-16-2022, 11:42 AM)northernblue link Wrote:Yes but…
This sort of shiite should not be swept under the carpet.
Absolutely!
It’s not a matter of political point scoring, it’s a matter of exposing an attempt to undermine our system of parliamentary democracy and ensuring that it can’t happen again.
It’s interesting to see how some conservative politicians are sticking fat with Scotty but most are outraged at his megalomania and undermining of our system of government.
Re: General Discussions - madbluboy - 08-16-2022
(08-16-2022, 10:41 AM)DJC link Wrote:.I expect that the folk who were outraged by the Victorian Government’s state of emergency legislation will be up in arms about Scotty’s attempt at presidential rule.
and vice versa.
Re: General Discussions - Lods - 08-16-2022
As a middling voter I don't have a lot of issue with the PM taking on repsonsibility for extra duties.
In fact with the proper checks and balances it makes sense to have the boss with the back-up power should a minister be indisposed.
When Gough Whitlam came to power he and Lance Barnard divided up all the portfolios between them (Whitlam 13, Barnard 14) and they made quite a few decisions in the weeks before the new full ministry was sworn in.
Whitlam and Labor had a clear agenda and as leader of the party I doubt there was much issue amongst his colleagues with the process.
There was a bit of public outrage at the time, but they hit the ground running.
The big problem for Morrison is in terms of transparency and secrecy.
Let folks know...no problem.
Do it without that transparency...political career over.
It's time to go.
Re: General Discussions - madbluboy - 08-17-2022
We all knew Scomo was a little bit shady playing both sides to win/fall into the top job in the first place but this is next level. He deceived his whole party including his closest allies. He's finished.
Re: General Discussions - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-17-2022
(08-17-2022, 06:45 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:We all knew Scomo was a little bit shady playing both sides to win/fall into the top job in the first place but this is next level. He deceived his whole party including his closest allies. He's finished.Agree...he will have to resign for sure, even his own party cant defend this and many in the opposition dont want him to survive but I just hope its quick and he falls on his sword and saves the taxpayer a lot of time and money rather than some dragged out investigation.
Re: General Discussions - Mav - 08-17-2022
In typical Scomo fashion, being the dedicated servant of the people, he’ll resign after December so he qualifies for maximum benefits.
Re: General Discussions - DJC - 08-17-2022
(08-16-2022, 08:33 PM)Lods link Wrote:As a middling voter I don't have a lot of issue with the PM taking on repsonsibility for extra duties.
In fact with the proper checks and balances it makes sense to have the boss with the back-up power should a minister be indisposed.
When Gough Whitlam came to power he and Lance Barnard divided up all the portfolios between them (Whitlam 13, Barnard 14) and they made quite a few decisions in the weeks before the new full ministry was sworn in.
Whitlam and Labor had a clear agenda and as leader of the party I doubt there was much issue amongst his colleagues with the process.
There was a bit of public outrage at the time, but they hit the ground running.
The big problem for Morrison is in terms of transparency and secrecy.
Let folks know...no problem.
Do it without that transparency...political career over.
It's time to go.
Yes Lods, there's nothing wrong with Ministers or Prime Ministers having more than one portfolio. It's the secrecy around Morrison's multiple appointments that's the problem. Of course, none of this is codified and Morrison has broken conventions rather than laws or the Constitution. In fact, our Constitution doesn't provide for a Prime Minister and the role is based on conventions established by the UK Parliament aka the Westminster system.
Similarly, deceiving his Cabinet colleagues and heads of departments is not unlawful but is at odds with the Westminster system.
Re: General Discussions - Lods - 08-17-2022
(08-17-2022, 07:04 AM)Mav link Wrote:In typical Scomo fashion, being the dedicated servant of the people, he’ll resign after December so he qualifies for maximum benefits.
As long as he is there it reflects on the opposition.
They'll want him gone so this isn't a distraction and a point of constant attack by Albo and his minions.
It will be interesting to see how much of a 'servant of the party' Morrison is.