(08-20-2020, 01:00 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Its the proper testing bit thats the problem.....you listen to Dr Nick C last night and he gave me the impression that testing wasnt going to be a high priority when questioned and said everything is being fast tracked.

I dont want some untested vaccine in my system like Russia are going to give to their political prisoners and other second rate citizens. Are people going to be keen to have the first batch of any vaccine rushed through any countries medical system?

Saying all that I'd be buying some CSL shares....

(08-20-2020, 01:00 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Its the proper testing bit thats the problem.....you listen to Dr Nick C last night and he gave me the impression that testing wasnt going to be a high priority when questioned and said everything is being fast tracked.
I dont want some untested vaccine in my system like Russia are going to give to their political prisoners and other second rate citizens. Are people going to be keen to have the first batch of any vaccine rushed through any countries medical system?
Saying all that I'd be buying some CSL shares....

(08-20-2020, 02:47 AM)LP link Wrote:Thalidomide anyone?
(Please do not take offense, I'm not trivialising anything!)

That was probably the highest profile bad batch of untested pharmaceuticals ever produced, and all that was caused by a change in molecule chirality when it flipped from Righthand to Lefthand spiral during manufacture? That is why testing is so so important!

I understand what ScoMo was trying to do, these big foreign entities have the capability to make enough for Australia in just a few weeks. But he ignored the fact that Oxford's R&D is privately funded, and that no deal he can do will change that for Astra Zeneca and other big pharmaceutical companies! Trump offered to buy some of them out and they told him to shove it. ScoMo tried to bully them into a freebie because we do not have the capacity to make the stuff here fast enough!

(08-20-2020, 02:53 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:CSL can make it fast and how.

(08-19-2020, 11:17 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:From what I can tell,  many so-called journalists are actually purveyors of propaganda or political activists.

(08-20-2020, 02:52 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:EB it will not happen here, the drug will to be tested as bullet proof for safety and efficacy, not so sure about or Russian friends though.

(08-20-2020, 02:52 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:EB it will not happen here, the drug will to be tested as bullet proof for safety and efficacy, not so sure about or Russian friends though.

(08-20-2020, 02:56 AM)LP link Wrote:We can't even get the glass vials to hold the stuff in, there is a global shortage as a couple of big European companies bought up all the critical sand and glass supplies when COVID broke. Vials are made from a special high purity form of Pyrex, and the sand comes from just one or two fresh water locations on earth.

Brewing a batch is the least of the issues!

Also, 25 million isn't likely to be the number, most vaccines take one dose with one or two boosters if they are lifelong immunisation. If not lifelong you need 25 million every COVID season or a couple of times per year! So just to get started it's probably 50 million, and then there are issues about how you store, transport and administer 50 million does, it's not a trivial problem. For example, after months and months or availability we've still only COVID tested a couple of million! (Actually it's about 4M now, after six months!)

(08-20-2020, 02:56 AM)LP link Wrote:Brewing a batch is the least of the issues!

(08-20-2020, 03:43 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Get vaccinated and receive a free Bombers membership. Whatever it takes! ?