(08-19-2020, 10:05 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Listen to "Stuff You Should Know" podcast..........................for information about everything that has ever existed. (over 1200 episodes)

In this instance, they did one with Bill Gates a week ago. He talks about Vaccines for Covid 19.

https://player.fm/series/stuff-you-should-know-2151878/short-stuff-the-return-of-bill-gates

They also did one on Covid 19 a while back which goes into great detail about it.
Got episodes on Spanish Flu (100 years ago, same thing happened as now - we learned nothing!)

(08-19-2020, 10:16 PM)rocky link Wrote:Media needs to be held in the same "esteem" as politicians and bureaucrats

(08-19-2020, 09:55 PM)LP link Wrote:[member=20]kruddler[/member]  Great links.

Perhaps they did learn something, but current actions are just wilfully ignoring history to save a penny! :

Yes, the current situation is being politically managed almost identical to the Spanish Flu, it's truly bizarre. If you read up on the Spanish Flu history you can almost predict what the current politicians and bureaucrats will do next, even though some of those actions are monstrously wrong!

Political and social media spin about vaccines is very dangerous, it leaves an excuse for politicians to sit on their hands and do nothing, even though they are well aware of how long it takes to get a vaccine up and working. They been told this multiple times face to face, yet they broadcast disinformation, mostly I suspect to stop the social media causing people to lose hope and break the isolation rules. But I don't think misleading the public helps at all!

Last night Channel Dots had an interview with a virologist, he told them the Oxford vaccine Phase-3 trials haven't started yet, and that means at least 6 to 12 months before someone in the general public sees a dose, even if the process is shortcut. Even with the development on turbo the people in the trial have to be treated for at least 3 to 6 months before they know if the vaccine is safe and effective, then they will start making it in bulk. Not five minutes later on the same news broadcast Channel Dots reported that the vaccine could be here before Christmas, it's bullcrap and somebody should hold them to account!

(08-19-2020, 11:27 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Have you heard about the current capability that we are looking to produce said vaccine?

To dose the population in large enough numbers, we would have to double our ability to create one and that timeline might work, provided we already know what it looks like, and stop producing vaccines for everything else (including measles, mumps, rubella and all the standard ones the kids get).

We are years away from a proper tested vaccine being administered to anyone!

(08-20-2020, 01:06 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:I think there will be 'incentives' for people to get vaccinated as well as 'disincentives ' if they don't.

(08-20-2020, 01:21 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:There is rumour talk of Vaccine passports and travel restrictions even interstate, look forward to more protests and increased numbers of anti vaxers. Like I said I wouldnt be keen on the first batch of vaccine and would want to wait and see the side effects etc.

(08-19-2020, 11:17 PM)cookie2 date Wrote:From what I can tell,  many so-called journalists are actually purveyors of propaganda or political activists.