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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-10-2017
Then again, the police really do need to be shielded from outrageous allegations. For instance, hard-working police in France were actually accused of sodomising a black man. The man, a 22 year old youth worker, says he spoke up when he saw an officer slapping a youth during an ID check and 4 officers took him into an alley. He says he was sodomised with a police baton as well as beaten around the genitals, and spat upon. But an impressively thorough investigation cleared the officers of anal rape. It concluded that the man's pants slipped down by themselves and the baton slipped into him accidentally. There was no dispute that it did penetrate and he was rushed to hospital for emergency surgery.
Pity for the officers that Trump isn't over there protecting them. The report didn't stop one of them being charged with rape and aggravated assault charges being laid against all 4.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paris-police-brutality-sodomy_us_589cc442e4b04061313c43fd?mpl7nri7lbhx2mx6r&
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 02-10-2017
Trump may well be guilty of trying to create an alternative reality but who's to say that what was being fed to the masses by previous regimes was "reality"? ???
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-10-2017
Previous administrations wanted their communications to be treated as works of non-fiction. Trump doesn't care if they are patently works of fiction. We're entering a brave new world.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 05:16 AM)Mav link Wrote:Previous administrations wanted their communications to be treated as works of non-fiction. Trump doesn't care if they are patently works of fiction. We're entering a brave new world.
I accept what you are saying about Trump but the rest of it is pure naivity I'm afraid.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Mav - 02-10-2017
i think you missed the implications of my previous post. I said previous administrations wanted their communications to be treated as works of non-fiction, not that they they always were.
But the very fact that previous administrations wanted to be seen as truthful and accurate was in the public interest. It allowed journalists to probe and on occasions force the White House into humiliating backdowns. This administration doesn't care if it is "caught out". It has taken the Sarah Palin approach of just repeating falsehoods until the penny drops that no amount of negative comment will have any effect. It kills any hope of rational argument or debate. Imagine if you are trying to argue with someone as to whether Carlton or Richmond had the better team at the start of the 70s but the other guy claimed that Richmond must have been better as they won premierships and Carlton didn't. You might argue for a while that we won in 68, 70 and 72 but if the other guy insisted that they didn't you'd have to stop arguing at some point as there's no point.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 02-10-2017
@ Mav
Ok, take your point, but can we therefore suppose that previous regimes were just as untrustworthy, if not more so, than this one? Both (all) are trying to mislead deliberately?
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - LP - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 04:55 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Trump may well be guilty of trying to create an alternative reality but who's to say that what was being fed to the masses by previous regimes was "reality"? ???
You're extending retrospectively the madness of the Trump era! :o
Trump is a feckwit of feckwitology proportions, he should be the Dean of Agnotology at the US Media U!
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Baggers - 02-10-2017
You could go mad trying to understand Trump and people of his ilk. You're looking a nasty clinical mental illness right in the face here. This is what narcissism (seems Trump's diagnosis is 'malignant narcissist') looks and sounds like.
Bottom line is that they are unable to take responsibility for any error or mistake, it's always someone else's fault, accountability for the narcissist is like drinking battery acid, they just won't take responsibility. Grandiose simplistic statements are also a hallmark as they need adoration and unconditional agreement. You're either for them or against them. And if you're against them then you can do no right, if they like you... you can do no wrong. They're very convincing liars as they can really believe their lies.
You've a better chance of flying to the moon on a ham sandwich than expecting rational, reasoned, accountable behaviour from a narcissist. I think a lot of folks are beginning to realise this now. So get your seat, open your pop-corn and marvel at the Trump freak show.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - cookie2 - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 06:58 AM)LP link Wrote:You're extending retrospectively the madness of the Trump era! :o
The madness (deception) has always been there. With Trump it just manifests itself in different ways via different techniques for deceit. Look at Trump's administration. The same old vested interests trying a different plan/approach. Don't be fooled, they are still looking after their own interests as they've always done.
There are plenty of "feck wits" to be very concerned about as well as Trump. He's the tip of the iceberg.
Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading) - Gointocarlton - 02-10-2017
(02-10-2017, 06:58 AM)LP link Wrote:You're extending retrospectively the madness of the Trump era! :oAmerica? I give you your 45th President.
Trump is a feckwit of feckwitology proportions, he should be the Dean of Agnotology at the US Media U!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I