+- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com)
+-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html)
+--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html)
+--- Thread: Football Department Review (/thread-5260.html)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
Re: Football Department Review - cookie2 - 08-25-2021
Could it be that reality has finally caught up with our board and they are reeling from the shock of that. If so, give ‘em a bit of time to take it all in and get used to it.
Re: Football Department Review - Micky0 - 08-25-2021
Have we seen this vid of Cripps before - seems sincere to me
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-news-2021-alastair-clarkson-carlton-coach-david-teague-wait-to-be-sacked-leigh-matthews-radio-attack/news-story/fc1513dcb791ca9b01111e617bcf83a8
Re: Football Department Review - DJC - 08-25-2021
(08-25-2021, 03:28 AM)kruddler link Wrote:All of that is fair enough, but you are ignoring a few things that are getting on peoples nerves.
1. This board started a review mid-season which no doubt had an effect on the way the football department ran.
2. This board sacked Barker 2 days after the review was announced (clearly not finished yet) because he said he was not going to be around next year.
3. This board sacked Bolton and appointed Teague.
4. This board sacked Malthouse and appointed Bolton.
5. This board sacked Ratten and appointed Malthouse.
Not entirely correct.
Only Jeanne Pratt was on the board when Ratten was sacked and Malthouse appointed. Sayers and Mathieson were appointed after those deeds were done and attended their first board meeting in October 2012. All current board members, with the exception of Chris Townshend, were there when Bolton was sacked. Townshend took his place on the board shortly before Teague was appointed.
It's probably drawing a long bow to say that the board sacked Barker; that was Liddle's work.
Re: Football Department Review - jeza - 08-25-2021
(08-25-2021, 05:47 AM)DJC link Wrote:Not entirely correct.
Only Jeanne Pratt was on the board when Ratten was sacked and Malthouse appointed. Sayers and Mathieson were appointed after those deeds were done and attended their first board meeting in October 2012. All current board members, with the exception of Chris Townshend, were there when Bolton was sacked. Townshend took his place on the board shortly before Teague was appointed.
It's probably drawing a long bow to say that the board sacked Barker; that was Liddle's work.
The board appoints and holds the reigns on Liddle so the line of responsibility for his decisions is 100% attributable to the board especially for hiring/firing key personnel.
Re: Football Department Review - northernblue - 08-25-2021
DJC & Jezza, all fair enough points, but in Liddlws case you cannot micromanage him
Re: Football Department Review - Inboltswetrust - 08-25-2021
Vince Loccisano is about to deliver the club with 100 member signatures to force an EGM. After this, he'll call for a total spill of all board positions and present a rival ticket. I suggest all members get on board. This board stinks and the way they've treated Teague and this nonsense about getting Clarko etc. shows they are a bunch of muppets. Do we want out of this quagmire, or don't we. Get behind the movement... on facebook you'll find the 'movement page'- type in Carlton Now. Here's a link to the organiser: https://www.facebook.com/CARLTONNOW/videos/2624800751162774
Re: Football Department Review - LoveNavy - 08-25-2021
(08-23-2021, 05:26 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:My email to our membership dept
Good afternoon.
Having received the following advice from Luke Sayers:
"The Club will take the necessary time required to absorb this review and any outcomes or decisions will be made on the timeframe that is in the best interest of the Club"
I wish to advise that CFC memberships held by our family members are to be considered in the following manner.
Members X, X, & X will take the time necessary to consider the outcomes and decisions made by The Club before renewing our respective memberships.
This means permission to "rollover membership" is to be placed on hold.
Our assessment of the eptitude of the decision making, resultant implementation, and communication of the review, will determine whether or not our long term membership status will continue.
This is in response to what appears to be chronic ineptitude in The Club's decision making. This has resulted in humiliation and embarrassment to be a member of what was once a great sporting club.
If anyone is interested enough to seek opinion from members, I'd welcome the opportunity to discuss further.
Yours faithfully
X
FYI
I received a call from membership staff today, in response to my email.
He asked for my concerns. He then offered a limited response. E.g Highlighted the importance of the review and need to get all information before making decisions.
He then outlined the timeline for membership rollover and that it gives adequate time for me to assess outcomes before renewing.
Re: Football Department Review - DJC - 08-25-2021
(08-25-2021, 06:00 AM)jeza link Wrote:The board appoints and holds the reigns on Liddle so the line of responsibility for his decisions is 100% attributable to the board especially for hiring/firing key personnel.
Barker handed his "resignation" to Lloyd on Monday 7 June. The board didn't meet until well after then.
While Liddle is responsible to the board, he has the authority to hire and fire staff and he exercised that authority with respect to Barker. I don't believe that any AFL board would be involved in the hiring and firing of assistant coaches, they simply don't have the expertise. The exception may be if it was a high-profile individual or part of a succession plan. Even in that case, they would be guided by the CEO.
Re: Football Department Review - kruddler - 08-25-2021
(08-25-2021, 05:47 AM)DJC link Wrote:Not entirely correct.
Only Jeanne Pratt was on the board when Ratten was sacked and Malthouse appointed. Sayers and Mathieson were appointed after those deeds were done and attended their first board meeting in October 2012. All current board members, with the exception of Chris Townshend, were there when Bolton was sacked. Townshend took his place on the board shortly before Teague was appointed.
It's probably drawing a long bow to say that the board sacked Barker; that was Liddle's work.
The board announced the review. Barker was sacked because of the announcement of the review. He wouldn't have said to Liddle/Board they need to find a replacement for him if it wasn't made clear that a review was undertaken.
But the board did hire Liddle so they have blood on their hands one way or another.
Re: Football Department Review - DJC - 08-25-2021
(08-25-2021, 07:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:The board announced the review. Barker was sacked because of the announcement of the review. He wouldn't have said to Liddle/Board they need to find a replacement for him if it wasn't made clear that a review was undertaken.
But the board did hire Liddle so they have blood on their hands one way or another.
How was Barker sacked because of the announcement of the review? He was terminated because he had given notice of his intention to resign at the end of the season. Teague and Lloyd were apparently comfortable with that but Liddle decided that he had to go. Perhaps it was to try one of the other assistants in Barker's role or perhaps it was just a cost-cutting exercise. The only thing that it has to do with the review is coincidence.
The review team must have met with Barker after his departure. Ignoring such a key figure would be unacceptable. I suspect Johnny wouldn't have pulled any punches in his responses.