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Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 10:18 AM)blueboys_1 link Wrote:That's what I thought as well. Could of played dazed and given the kick to someone else. Maybe he wanted to be the hero and kick the winning goal as he did for Adelaide a few years ago. Not sure who the kick could of gone to but it may of been a lot closer to scoring than the howler that it was.
Honestly, Gov is probably the best option to take the kick.
Not sure if you've ever watched him in warm ups but he casually launches 70m torpedos without breaking a sweat.
He kicked 60m drop punts for fun.
He never looked confident and never looked 'there' to me.
I can't recall who else was around, but someone else said Harry, and for some reason i think Martin may have been there as well.
I guess we'll know more during the week.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 08-04-2024
Watched the McGovern kick after the siren, FMD could not have kicked it any worse if he tried.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 08-04-2024
My mate reckons it was Martin. He could have kicked it.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 10:34 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Watched the McGovern kick after the siren, FMD could not have kicked it any worse if he tried.
Kernahan 93 lol.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 09:05 AM)kruddler link Wrote:So your issues with my stats, are not with my stats, they are that you think there are other issues. Which i've never said there weren't.your stats are fine their value is bogus.
What i'm showing you stats wise, is simply data. Its up to you/us to interpret it and ask why and what does it mean.
Part of the problem of not turning shots into scores can be as simple as putting it in the wrong spots or giving it to the wrong people......or simply kicking it directly to the opposition.
There is no point getting an inside 50 if its to a bloke on the boundary, 45m out who won't make the distance.
There is no point getting an inside 50 if its to a 3 on 1 and the opposition clear it straight after.
There is no point getting an inside 50 if its directly to the opposition.
If you want to make the most of your opportunities, then get better opportunities.
Those repeat efforts build pressure to create the opportunities you do score from.
Being better at it is one facet, but the value of converting good opportunities outweighs whatever your stats were trying to convey.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 10:34 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Watched the McGovern kick after the siren, FMD could not have kicked it any worse if he tried.Should never be in a position where you need that last kick scenario so Im not dirty on McGovern...the Cox free kick was more of an issue for me and why Newman was opposed to him and having the wrong type of player on Cox influenced that outcome where the umpires assumed rather than were sure of the facts.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 10:46 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:your stats are fine their value is bogus.
Those repeat efforts build pressure to create the opportunities you do score from.
Being better at it is one facet, but the value of converting good opportunities outweighs whatever your stats were trying to convey.
So....repeat entries create pressure and help us score....sure.....even though we scored more when we didn't need repeat entries.
Not sure what you think you are trying to say, but i'd back the stats over whatever you are trying to spin.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 10:51 AM)kruddler link Wrote:So....repeat entries create pressure and help us score....sure.....even though we scored more when we didn't need repeat entries.who's spinning?
Not sure what you think you are trying to say, but i'd back the stats over whatever you are trying to spin.
We kicked 5 goals 1 in quarter 4.
We kicked 1 goal 8 in quarter one.
But we were more efficient in the first because our 9 scoring shots came without the domination? Is that what you're saying? Don't know how valuable that is, but I can distinctly recall looking at 3.11 at half time and stating we should be 6 goals 8.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 11:20 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:who's spinning?
We kicked 5 goals 1 in quarter 4.
We kicked 1 goal 8 in quarter one.
But we were more efficient in the first because our 9 scoring shots came without the domination? Is that what you're saying? Don't know how valuable that is, but I can distinctly recall looking at 3.11 at half time and stating we should be 6 goals 8.
We had the ball inside 50 an extra 8 times in the 4th quarter and hit the scoreboard 3 times less than the 1st.
We were more accurate with our shots on goal as we converted them. But we were not efficient with our inside 50 entries.
Had we have been more efficient, we should've generated an extra 6 shots than we did that quarter. Even if we were inaccurate with those shots, we still win.
We need to work out why our inside 50's didn't result in more shots on goals. Not simply be happy that we kicked straighter as that papers over the cracks.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 08-04-2024
Scoring is not the problem.
We are the highest scoring team in the league.