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Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 06:18 AM)LP link Wrote:I think Voss might have been eating a bit of humble pie, we went into that game with a perceived advantage that the Filth turned into a weakness.I didn't get from his presser, quite the contrary.
Out coached?
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Macca37 - 05-04-2024
The persistent problem we have, and which seems to have no solution, is that too many of our good senior players are physically fragile and are unavailable for selection for long periods of time, making it impossible to have a cohesive unit.
On the rare occasions when most of them do play on the same day we are given a glimpse of what is possible. Then the injuries start again.
Unfortunately it is possible that where we are now on the ladder is as good as it gets with this list.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 06:50 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:The persistent problem we have, and which seems to have no solution, is that too many of our good senior players are physically fragile and are unavailable for selection for long periods of time, making it impossible to have a cohesive unit.Spot on Macca, as soon as we get some back, they drop like flies again, and by that I mean the usual suspects.
On the rare occasions when most of them do play on the same day we are given a glimpse of what is possible. Then the injuries start again.
Unfortunately it is possible that where we are now on the ladder is as good as it gets with this list.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 06:18 AM)LP link Wrote:I think Voss might have been eating a bit of humble pie, we went into that game with a perceived advantage that the Filth turned into a weakness.
Out coached?
Out coached is interesting. I cant really take it when you lose by a goal and the scores were level with 2 minutes left.
Do you get outcoached in that circumstance? Pues had extra rest too after anzac day. The second quarter was our worst and where we let the game slip but our handballs and errant kicking had more to do with it than being out coached.
Irrespective of what we say we played last seasons premiers who have started hitting their stride recently. It had danger game written all ober it from the get go.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - pinot - 05-04-2024
There are plenty of small problem
Charlie Curnows contested posession rate is over 60% for a key forward it needs to be under 50%. So he is working way too hard to win his posessions... thats down to various things - not giving him space to lead into and contesting ground balls which is not his job but has to go for them as small forwards are no where near it.
Lack of run and covering the ground. Filth always had 2-3 players tackling one Blue we did not reciprocate because we didnt have the team composition to cover the ground.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 05-04-2024
After rd 8
2023: 4 1/2 wins 107%
2024: 5 wins 109%
Hopefully we don't fall as far as last year.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - northernblue - 05-04-2024
(05-03-2024, 01:33 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:re: Williams......a nervous player when played down back and and when you add Young plus two inexperienced defenders in Cowan and Cincotta it puts a lot of pressure on Weitering to be the glue thats holds the backline together.
I think Williams has to play on the weakest small forward and never on the last line close to goal and my preference if he has to play is on the wing where he use his skillset to carry the ball and deliver and be removed from having to mind a man.
I cant see him in the team when we have our full crew back and ditto for Fantasia and Durdin.
What people forget is that Saad can lock down and run and create, with him out Williams is asked to do his job.
Williams copped heaps last week and was nervous on Friday as the two early frees showed.
When 1st choice players are back and guys like Williams can return to their preferred run and gun position the whole team will look and perform better.
And don’t get me started on the fb bananas who wanted to play Kemp on Cox without McGovern there to come over the top… ??♂️
And those two early frees for scragging… didn’t seem to get paid at the other end of the ground, did they ?
1 goal loss with our cobbled together team, I’ll wear that.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 12:03 PM)northernblue date Wrote:And those two early frees for scragging… didn’t seem to get paid at the other end of the ground, did they ?As I always state, it's not the free kick count that matters, it's the where and when!
Williams infringement was subtle, almost benign compared to how they dry humped Walsh well before he got anywhere near touching the pill.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 12:03 PM)northernblue link Wrote:What people forget is that Saad can lock down and run and create, with him out Williams is asked to do his job.Umpiring was fickled and Harry in particular was held without frees being paid.
Williams copped heaps last week and was nervous on Friday as the two early frees showed.
When 1st choice players are back and guys like Williams can return to their preferred run and gun position the whole team will look and perform better.
And don’t get me started on the fb bananas who wanted to play Kemp on Cox without McGovern there to come over the top… ??♂️
And those two early frees for scragging… didn’t seem to get paid at the other end of the ground, did they ?
1 goal loss with our cobbled together team, I’ll wear that.
Young on Cox was the obvious move given the height factor. I would never have dropped Kemp though.
As I said I can't see Williams being in the team with everyone fit, it's hard to carry him as just an offensive player.
Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - northernblue - 05-04-2024
(05-04-2024, 12:48 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Umpiring was fickled and Harry in particular was held without frees being paid.
Young on Cox was the obvious move given the height factor. I would never have dropped Kemp though.
As I said I can't see Williams being in the team with everyone fit, it's hard to carry him as just an offensive player.
I disagree, people forget the Freo game where Williams and his dash and dare won us the game.
Saad excels at his role, Williams is a poor man’s replacement but it’s temporary.