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Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - BluePhantom - 03-10-2024

(03-09-2024, 05:20 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Agree with that except dunno about Cunners. Has speed and is very skilful especially his finishing however, he just seems to me to play the game in a way that matches his demeanour. Quiet, enigmatic sometimes lackadaisical and shows very little emotion. I like to think he makes us better, but I'm not sure he actually does.
Cunners reminds me Houlihan, very skillful and seems to have heaps of time but also very laconic, almost lazy looking.
That's what classy players can look like.


Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - DJC - 03-10-2024

(03-10-2024, 01:05 AM)BluePhantom link Wrote:Cunners reminds me Houlihan, very skillful and seems to have heaps of time but also very laconic, almost lazy looking.
That's what classy players can look like.

Yes, the comparison with Hoops is probably a lot closer than mine with Gibba.


Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - blueboys_1 - 03-10-2024

(03-09-2024, 01:42 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Agree. Fantasia's smarts and disposal in tight were influential. Owies was probably our only 'not quite up to it' player. - Looked good and assured in traffic. First real game in over 12 months I think. Can only get better if he can stay on the park.
Hollands, whose tireless work; defensive work, was terrific... however, he's got to become less fumbly and surer with his hands. - Agreed. Has a big heart for the contest and has no fear.
Crippa, Cera & Hewett were outstanding. Really well supported by Chugga and J Carroll - who looked like he belonged. Announced himself. - Long time coming for Carroll. Should get a few more games this year. Was highly touted when we picked him up.
Good to see Cunners going in hard with his body at times when required. - Agreed and if he kicked straight could of had 3 goals at least.
Entire back-line deserves plaudits. (Pleasantly surprised by Young. Kempy tough and hard). - Agreed. Held it together and Young looked back to his best from 2 years ago. A real bonus if he can keep the form up.
TDK's work was great. Hard at it. 2nd/3rd efforts, terrific. - Kruzer MK 2.
H... silenced the glib and shallow critics in the best way possible. - Agreed
Fogarty... tougher than a cat's head. Valuable. When he tackles someone, they remain tackled. - The one that stood out to me was the tackle on MCINERNEY. Had some help but i don't think he needed it.
47pt turnaround speaks for itself about belief, persistence, endeavour, pressure and connection... when we bring our 'brand.' - Wife's  birthday on Friday so we were out and saw the first half on the big screed. Was about to throw my beer at the screen but thought second off it and drank it instead. Kept an eye on the score when we got home and was rapped they got up after thinking we had no hope in hell of winning.

Kinda feels like a 'bonus' 4pts considering where we played, conditions and an elite opposition. Go Blues!



Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LoveNavy - 03-10-2024

(03-10-2024, 12:48 AM)laj link Wrote:Watching the game again Doc got 6 kicks in the 2nd qtr  with a stuffed ACL and meniscus. Sometimes they hurt but sometime times you feel no extensive pain. No wonder they were shocked when they found the extent of his injury.

ACL's are overrated...lol.

Assessment for ACLs are overrated!

I had my own experience of rupturing my ACL, torn meniscis, and some other damage. Physio said ACL's ok, here's the exercises and off I went. A year later (pain, ltd sleep etc), my only option was a total knee replacement.

Doc will have the best care available and continue to be a leader. I'd love to see him pull on the guernsey again ?
If anyone can. Doc can


Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-10-2024

(03-09-2024, 11:08 PM)LP link Wrote:I think you have to include agility in the acceleration and speed combination to understand how we clawed back that result on Friday, if I said Weiters lacked one area it would be agility, but he is not alone for blokes that size, which is lucky for Charlie Curnow.
The player I have seem him struggle with is Larkey from Nth Melbourne who doesnt attempt to wrestle in the goal square which is Weiterings forte but leads up the ground and doesnt mind taking his shots from further out as he is an excellent converter.


Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - kruddler - 03-10-2024

(03-10-2024, 12:48 AM)laj link Wrote:Watching the game again Doc got 6 kicks in the 2nd qtr  with a stuffed ACL and meniscus. Sometimes they hurt but sometime times you feel no extensive pain. No wonder they were shocked when they found the extent of his injury.

ACL's are overrated...lol.

Told this story a few times, but hurt my knee, went to the Docs, got scans 'all clear'. Hurt like hell for a fwe days. Couldn't walk properly for a week.
Kept playing sports, hurt it again. Less pain. Didn't go to the docs because ...why....gonna tell me the same thing.
Kept playing sports, hurt it again, this time it was full on, knee completely sideways to the rest of my body, slingshot me over it, peoples eyes popping out of their head watching it as it looked horrorfying. Casually hobbled off. 5 minutes later, no pain at all. Just a bit swollen and hard to flex. Went to the docs, went to the specialist. Yep, did my acl the first time, scans just didn't pick it.

Fast forward 20+ years later, still haven't had surgery. Still active enough, just had to change the way i walk/turn and jump/land etc. Obviously nothing overly strenuous.
But.....i'm more active than others my age and you can't tell i'm missing my ACL (and whatever other damage i have in there as well).
Ran 25km great ocean road ultra half marathon and various other races in good time. Tough Mudder, tough bloke challenge, spartan....all that stuff.

You learn to live without an ACL, its not the end of the world, and yes, overrated.


Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 03-10-2024

(03-10-2024, 02:22 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Assessment for ACLs are overrated!

I had my own experience of rupturing my ACL, torn meniscis, and some other damage. Physio said ACL's ok, here's the exercises and off I went. A year later (pain, ltd sleep etc), my only option was a total knee replacement.

Doc will have the best care available and continue to be a leader. I'd love to see him pull on the guernsey again ?
If anyone can. Doc can

While I was talking a bit tongue-in-cheek the only way to fix an ACL is a reco. Otherwise just huge instability can wreck the meniscus completely. Some can go without it, other have the meniscus ripped right up.


Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - laj - 03-10-2024

(03-10-2024, 07:36 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Told this story a few times, but hurt my knee, went to the Docs, got scans 'all clear'. Hurt like hell for a fwe days. Couldn't walk properly for a week.
Kept playing sports, hurt it again. Less pain. Didn't go to the docs because ...why....gonna tell me the same thing.
Kept playing sports, hurt it again, this time it was full on, knee completely sideways to the rest of my body, slingshot me over it, peoples eyes popping out of their head watching it as it looked horrorfying. Casually hobbled off. 5 minutes later, no pain at all. Just a bit swollen and hard to flex. Went to the docs, went to the specialist. Yep, did my acl the first time, scans just didn't pick it.

Fast forward 20+ years later, still haven't had surgery. Still active enough, just had to change the way i walk/turn and jump/land etc. Obviously nothing overly strenuous.
But.....i'm more active than others my age and you can't tell i'm missing my ACL (and whatever other damage i have in there as well).
Ran 25km great ocean road ultra half marathon and various other races in good time. Tough Mudder, tough bloke challenge, spartan....all that stuff.

You learn to live without an ACL, its not the end of the world, and yes, overrated.

Some are good, like you were, where you were also able to re-train yourself very successfully, strengthen the right areas, others though the instability can rip their meniscus up completely. Those Winter Olympians are often competing without and ACL, a few medalists among them. The Olympics are just too important to them to miss. They just strap it up and stabilise it the best way they can and retain themselves for the competition. The ACL rupture is common amongst those extreme competitors.

Reckon the pain Doc may have had by half time was the meniscus. Seems he had no idea he had an ACL rupture as he was still running around and got 6 possessions, 5 marks, for the qtr like nothing had happened.




Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - LoveNavy - 03-10-2024

(03-10-2024, 07:39 AM)laj link Wrote:While I was talking a bit tongue-in-cheek the only way to fix an ACL is a reco. Otherwise just huge instability can wreck the meniscus completely. Some can go without it, other have the meniscus ripped right up.

Yes, I got that ?

Mine was the latter unfortunately. Meniscus was so diminished that I was bone on bone with osteo setting in. The worse part was taking the PT assessment without question ?


Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane - crashlander - 03-10-2024

The only things left in decent condition of my left knee were the cruciate ligaments. But they're gone now. Metal and plastic taking their place. Still not to where the doc thought I'd be. Very not-fun experience.