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Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 02-29-2024
https://www.theroar.com.au/afl/video/absolute-shocker-harry-mckay-outdoes-himself-as-set-shot-from-directly-in-front-goes-25-metres-off-target-1335272/
Farken how? Explain to me how? How many shots has he had from the position at the ground? How?
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - kruddler - 02-29-2024
(02-29-2024, 09:47 AM)Lods link Wrote:He's not a young lad but after only 16 games at AFL level you would think he's still getting a feel for the speed and pressure.
I can't recall any of the incidents you talk about but if they occurred it probably happened because he's still getting used to the intensity.
Problem is personal bias often plays into this.
When we perceive a problem we look for it.
Hopefully it doesn't diminish the good aspects of a player and the positives they bring.
When does perception turn into bias?
When we recruited him, I didnt understand why, but then I saw his kicking on his highlight reel, and I thought OK...it's something worth exploring.
The i saw him play and that kicking was nowhere to be seen, in fact it was flat out terrible....but so was everything else he did. He looked like a deer in headlights. Completely overawed by the situation.....and it didn't improve.....at least for a for a couple of years.
He played 1 good game and credit to him, but plenty of nobodies have played 1 good game, or even 7 and still not had 'it'.
I've got nothing against the lad, I actually had a quick chat and got his autograph for my kids at auskick last year. I'm just not convinced of anything until he can do it for longer. As I said, LOB had shown more and more often at a younger age and was still deemed not up to it, difference is the position he is playing more so than how he is playing though.
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - Thryleon - 02-29-2024
His first couple of games were howlers. I didn't see any of what we are currently seeing in him at the time.
I even went on record and said I got it wrong after initially saying he wouldn't make it.
He will be an also ran though. Plenty of also rans win flags.
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - pinot - 02-29-2024
My thoughts exactly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_M0-Y9jIKM&ab_channel=MyBlueHeaven
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - Lods - 02-29-2024
(02-29-2024, 11:42 AM)kruddler link Wrote:When does perception turn into bias?
Perception turns to a bias when the defciencies we perceive in a player affect our overall judgement.
We magnify the faults.
We diminish the positives.
When commenting on a player in game threads we obsess about one critical aspect of the player's play and give little thought to the good.
Harry McKay...arguably our best player in both the practice games is an example.
We speak in absolutes....
You say re Boyd....
("Then i saw him play and that kicking was nowhere to be seen, in fact it was flat out terrible....but so was everything else he did. He looked like a deer in headlights. Completely overawed by the situation.....and it didn't improve.....at least for a for a couple of years. ). He's only played 16 games over two years.
Truth is that while he wasn't a standout in many games he was serviceable and applied good pressure and a bit of agro. And his kicking on most occasions was accurate and penetrating.
His game against Brisbane in a prelim was his best.
A number of our more celebrated players didn't rise to the occasion on that night.
But he's been OK in a number of games.
He still hasn't played many games and the truth is it may fizzle out.
He may spend a lot of 2024 as a fringe player.
It may be that some of his detractors will continue to write him off, commenting on every clanger with an "I told you so."
And from those folks we won't hear a peep when he plays a good game.
But in some respects..."You're only as good as your last game, or current form."
Right now I'll be really surprised if he's not in the 22 come the Brisbane game.
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - pinot - 02-29-2024
I don't think Boyd will get plenty of games as his off the ball game has been woeful past two weeks.
Maybe he is out of form or his ceiling is reached - if his ceiling is reached then he is deadwood and need to give youngsters a game instead with a higher ceiling. He is good with ball in hand but geez he needs to be better off the ball.
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - pinot - 02-29-2024
BTW our mids did our backs no favours at all - they were obliterated to such a level that it was inexcusable. Hopefully its blowing out cobwebs. If we bring that game next week - then the players better buy some shares in Vaseline because they will need plenty of it.
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - northernblue - 02-29-2024
My biggest concern with the pre season games is that I don’t think Acres had an OOB with his first disposal in either game…
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - Lods - 02-29-2024
(02-29-2024, 01:13 PM)northernblue link Wrote:My biggest concern with the pre season games is that I don’t think Acres had an OOB with his first disposal in either game…Not up to his usual standard.
Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne - DJC - 02-29-2024
(02-29-2024, 01:13 PM)northernblue link Wrote:My biggest concern with the pre season games is that I don’t think Acres had an OOB with his first disposal in either game…
In both games I found myself thinking "Acres has got it again, surely he's got to shank this kick!"