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Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-24-2023
(09-24-2023, 07:15 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Cunners was a witches hat for the 2 finals, he had to get dropped. If Charlie wasn't Charlie and dual Coleman medalist, he probably should have joined him. Not laying blame here, its a team game not 1 player here or there. I just loved Ollie's approach to the finals.I thought Berry was influential and that was the problem, home and away game its fine to leave the matchup continue for Hollands to get experience but not in a do or die prelim...
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - northernblue - 09-24-2023
I thought Weiters struggled a bit.
Kemp being dropped meant that he had to be accountable, he was led to the ball and gave up at least 3 goals including 1 to McInerny.
Boyd played a ripper game to be fair but our tall defenders all had a man, none were able to be the 3rd man up.
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - LordLucifer - 09-24-2023
(09-23-2023, 10:17 AM)Mantis link Wrote:Good ladder result. Obviously need to work on body strength. Inject some speed by foot, and class by disposal. Much work for Voss, but something to show that you can only work with the stock you have. We went far further with a squad that would never beat Brisbane. If we didn’t start as we did it would have been a humiliation. We have some needs and Voss needs to see where he can find what he needs. Great result for the season, but not a flag winning unit just yet. Keep shopping for better stock and develop some of the youth. Well done for the seasons result. Now is time to build on a better 2024.
People have been saying our list is fine and we just need to go to the draft this year.
However ......... you are 100% correct here Mantis, we are not the finished product yet and still need another 2 or 3 hard runners with good leg speed.
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - LordLucifer - 09-24-2023
(09-23-2023, 10:30 AM)pinot link Wrote:Charlie Curnow again very poor against a very average defender.
He doesn't have any second efforts and never has, if the ball doesn't bounce back into his arms he just stops and lets everyone & anyone else grab it.
Furthermore, whilst he has been a terrific goal-kicker from us, his finals series has been deplorable. During this off-season, it is imperative that he stops listening to all the media hype and learns that reputations are made in finals, not beating up the little kids in the playground.
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - ElwoodBlues1 - 09-24-2023
(09-24-2023, 07:26 AM)northernblue link Wrote:I thought Weiters struggled a bit.McInerney was a pain when he played forward, Weitering had to cover Daniher and the Brisbane ruckman was just too tall for everyone else and poor Jacob cant play on them all. This is where Young probably has a role when in form and I hope the coaches can get him back to his best as having that extra tall defender is a bonus.
Kemp being dropped meant that he had to be accountable, he was led to the ball and gave up at least 3 goals including 1 to McInerny.
Boyd played a ripper game to be fair but our tall defenders all had a man, none were able to be the 3rd man up.
McGovern and Boyd both played well, the latter surprised me and the former played a very good finals series and remained very disciplined and has found his niche down back.
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - LordLucifer - 09-24-2023
(09-23-2023, 10:46 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Outmuscled, outrun, outplayed and outgunned by a clearly superior opponent. No disgrace in that performance IMO. They have real hardness and real skill. I'm tipping them for the flag.
Agreed !!
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - LP - 09-24-2023
Fans underestimate the toll playing the Swans and Melbourne consecutively took on the squad, Top 4 with a week off is a huge advantage, and teams only have a chance from the bottom half of the eight if one of the top teams has some bad luck.
If the team has a problem it was the start to the season, not the finals effort.
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - Gointocarlton - 09-24-2023
(09-24-2023, 07:23 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I thought Berry was influential and that was the problem, home and away game its fine to leave the matchup continue for Hollands to get experience but not in a do or die prelim...Not disputing Berry's influence, just commenting on Ollies application for a first year in a big final. I have to watch it again in full. Ill also add this comment re Charlie, it looked to me like he wasn't prepared to work hard enough to get to contests or make one. I recall one passage of play where Weiters burst from the backline and busted a boiler to hit up Charlie, the kick fell short despite his best efforts. Charlie appeared to be barely ambling along to get to it. Perhaps some harder work (running harder earlier in the piece) would have resulted in the kick hitting its intended target. Effort doesn't take talent. Not sure whether the pressure or the occasion(s) got to him or not, but he has work to do in this space. I'd rather he rips finals appart that win Coleman's.
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - Professer E - 09-24-2023
It sh!TS me to tears when a bloke like McKenna - who has cut us up previously - does so again. It reeks of poor planning.
We have issues across half forward that need addressing. When he was 'on' Martin was that man, but yesterday our half fowards just didn't get it done and Coleman and McKenna ripped us a new one. We've got a group of these blokes eg Martin Fisher Cunners Owies so I can see why we'd be chasing Eli Hollands, its part of the ground that we need to find a player for. Pace, class and ability to take a mark. They're always a bit up and down but a bloke like (gag) Rohan who could kick six on a good day, and stops the half backs running wild might be what we need.
Re: AFL 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Post Game Prognostications - LordLucifer - 09-24-2023
(09-24-2023, 09:34 AM)Professer E link Wrote:It crapS me to tears when a bloke like McKenna - who has cut us up previously - does so again. It reeks of poor planning.
We have issues across half forward that need addressing. When he was 'on' Martin was that man, but yesterday our half fowards just didn't get it done and Coleman and McKenna ripped us a new one. We've got a group of these blokes eg Martin Fisher Cunners Owies so I can see why we'd be chasing Eli Hollands, its part of the ground that we need to find a player for. Pace, class and ability to take a mark. They're always a bit up and down but a bloke like (gag) Rohan who could kick six on a good day, and stops the half backs running wild might be what we need.
Yep, another 2-3 of them !!