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Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 07-26-2023
(07-26-2023, 03:41 PM)shawny link Wrote:What’s the bet they play. This mob has a habit of saying the flu is ripping thru the place prior to playing a big game.100% they are just resting players during the week.
Funny thing is it seems to clear up real quick and they mostly all play.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they are just rotating players having a session off but use it as a tactic saying the club is fighting the flu.
Don’t trust the pr1cks
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - tonyo - 07-26-2023
(07-26-2023, 03:41 PM)shawny date Wrote:What’s the bet they play. This mob has a habit of saying the flu is ripping thru the place prior to playing a big game.They said exactly the same thing about De Goey before the Port game. No way those three players miss.
Funny thing is it seems to clear up real quick and they mostly all play.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they are just rotating players having a session off but use it as a tactic saying the club is fighting the flu.
Don’t trust the pr1cks
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 07-27-2023
After Jack went off, our forward line against the Eagles was generally six of Charlie, Ed, Motlop, Honey, Cottrell, Cuningham and Fogarty. The likes of Moore, Murphy, Howe, Maynard and Quaynor would be licking their lips at the prospect of exploiting such an undersized lack of firepower.
We have to lock the ball in our forward line for long periods to be competitive against Collingwood and that requires a mix of tall and small forwards to compete in the air and on the ground as well as providing defensive pressure when Collingwood gets possession.
Jack Martin, if fit, will help with his footy nous and ability to pluck a mark. I’d bring Owies in too, if he’s fit. That leaves us still to find a CHF and a third tall to keep Murphy and Howe honest.
De Koning can be a forward threat when he’s not rucking but his potential ruck partners aren’t much chop. Pitto is clearly our next best ruckman but he could be a liability as a third tall, as he would be if asked to do most of the ruckwork. Young could be a better option as the third tall forward but his ruckwork is average and he may be required to play defence on Cox.
I would play Hudson O’Keeffe. He is still developing his craft but he can clunk a mark in a pack or on the lead. That still leaves us without a CHF.
Lemmey probably isn’t up to it at this stage of his development but he’s worth considering. That leaves us with McGovern and Kemp; both of whom are essential cogs in our defensive machine. Marchbank’s form in the VFL suggests that he could be an adequate replacement.
McGovern was lost when shifted forward earlier in the season, as was Young. Gov has never really been a success as a forward and I would be reluctant to rely on him. That leaves Kemp, the under 18 All Australian full forward.
I think that playing in defence suits Kemp’s ability to read the play and get into intercept positions. However, his marking and foot speed will trouble any of Collingwood’s defenders and will ease the pressure on Charlie.
My forward line would be Charlie, Kemp, Martin, Owies, Cuningham/Fogarty with O’Keeffe as third tall and ruck.
The MC will go with De Koning and Pitto sharing ruck and CHF.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - rocky - 07-27-2023
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/patrick-cripps-a-confirmed-starter-for-blues-in-pies-blockbuster-20230727-p5drnc.html
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - rocky - 07-27-2023
For the people who don't have a subscription:
Blues skipper Patrick Cripps will play in Friday night’s blockbuster against Collingwood, despite missing Carlton’s main training session on Thursday morning.
Cripps missed last Saturday’s match with West Coast due to a corked hamstring, and while coach Michael Voss was hopeful the reigning Brownlow medallist would improve in time for Friday night’s meeting with the Magpies, Cripps was a notable absentee from training at Ikon Park on Thursday morning.
But Voss, speaking at his weekly press conference on Thursday, confirmed Cripps would lead the team in the highly anticipated game against their rivals.
Adam Cerra will also play after overcoming hamstring tightness. He was left out of the side that beat West Coast on Saturday, but was on the track on Thursday in a bid to prove his fitness.
Jesse Motlop, who played against the Eagles but finished the match on the bench with a calf concern, also trained on Thursday.
The Blues will be without Sam Walsh (hamstring) and Jack Silvagni (knee), while Harry McKay (knee) is out longer-term.
Collingwood boast the healthiest list in the competition at the moment, after Will Hoskin-Elliott overcame a broken hand to mark himself available for selection this week.
Fin Macrae (thumb injury) is the only Magpie on their injury list, but the young midfielder has not played a senior game in 2023.
Magpies coach Craig McRae says he has some tough selection decisions to make in the run to finals given their mass availability.
Friday night’s match at the MCG is sold out. Carlton sit ninth on the ladder after winning their past five matches, all with margins exceeding 50 points, while the Magpies sit atop the AFL ladder, having lost just two matches this season.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-27-2023
The Pies seem to have everything in their favour at the moment. Top of the ladder, and one measly injury to a young, and currently fringe player. Hard life for some.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-27-2023
In addition to the article posted by rocky, on SEN they mention that Pittonet is "an automatic in". Not sure why the peculiar phrasing, but anyway......
Hopefully all are 100%, because those three are vital and excellent additions. It looks like the club is going in to win - no resting of players that I can see.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - DJC - 07-27-2023
(07-27-2023, 01:59 AM)PaulP link Wrote:In addition to the article posted by rocky, on SEN they mention that Pittonet is "an automatic in". Not sure why the peculiar phrasing, but anyway......
Hopefully all are 100%, because those three are vital and excellent additions. It looks like the club is going in to win - no resting of players that I can see.
And that's how it has to be. We have considerable momentum and resting players for a game against a formidable opponent could jeopardise that. A competitive loss against the top team won't do much damage but giving up would.
If we can get the right combination on the park and play the game on our terms, we're in with a very good chance.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 07-27-2023
(07-27-2023, 02:47 AM)DJC link Wrote:And that's how it has to be. We have considerable momentum and resting players for a game against a formidable opponent could jeopardise that. A competitive loss against the top team won't do much damage but giving up would......................
I guess the flip side is the approach taken in recent seasons by Geelong, who in order to go deep in finals, were well known to rest players. I can see merit in both approaches.
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - rocky - 07-27-2023
I saw no mention on Martin anywhere?