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Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - DJC - 04-09-2022
I would have played Mirkov. I know he’s learning the caper but his ruckwork, second efforts and marking around the ground and as a forward target are damn good.
Bringing in Fogarty for Pittonet affects the team structure and compromises the roles of other players.
I still think we’ll win but it will be a tighter contest.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Mantis - 04-09-2022
I look at the Eagles vs Pies this round and wonder how they won with their issues with so many new entries to their playing squad. How they won is beyond me. We just need to find a win. Stick to the basics while we have momentum. I like what Voss has us doing. Just need to stick with his basic needs. If we win the first 4 games it will be an awesome start to the season.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Gointocarlton - 04-09-2022
(04-09-2022, 06:40 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:The problem is having to use de Koning as our main ruckman. He just doesn't seem able to impose himself in that position and as soon as he starts to tire he gets pushed out of position by the opposing ruckman.My concern with TDK is his fragility. With Pitto doing alot of the grunt work to date, TDK gets a lot of relief reducing risk of injury. We are going to see today how much load Tom can take as the sole big banana. Yes he will get help from Jack and co but...
It looks as though Jack will have to be a shorter version of Pittonet for most of the game. I agree that we can't go shorter in the backline.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - LP - 04-09-2022
(04-09-2022, 01:23 PM)Mantis date Wrote:I look at the Eagles vs Pies this round and wonder how they won with their issues with so many new entries to their playing squad. How they won is beyond me.The trick is a known known versus unknowns, it's the new entrants that opposition cannot plan for, it's a huge short term advantage like having an interim coach, the opposition don't know!
AFL is all about surveillance and preparation, excluding the very elite the bulk of the 750 players aren't that much better than the next 1000. We get fooled by our idolatry.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Thryleon - 04-09-2022
(04-09-2022, 09:21 PM)LP link Wrote:The trick is a known known versus unknowns, it's the new entrants that opposition cannot plan for, it's a huge short term advantage like having an interim coach, the opposition don't know!
AFL is all about surveillance and preparation, excluding the very elite the bulk of the 750 players aren't that much better than the next 1000. We get fooled by our idolatry.
Not sure i subscribe to that fact.
The next 1000 are miles off as typified by the number of players that make it then fall away.
You can mount an argument for maybe 50 of the next thousand making the grade but they have limitations and if relied upon too heavily are exposed.
It's not idolatry that makes an AFL football player. Its a lot of hard work and ability.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - capcom - 04-09-2022
I think Mirkov might have been a wiser choice ....
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-09-2022
(04-09-2022, 09:17 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:My concern with TDK is his fragility. With Pitto doing alot of the grunt work to date, TDK gets a lot of relief reducing risk of injury. We are going to see today how much load Tom can take as the sole big banana. Yes he will get help from Jack and co but...I would have played Mirkov as others have suggested and agree on TDK, he isn't the type of ruck you play for the majority of the game on the ball imo due to his injury history.
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - LP - 04-09-2022
I think Mirkov would get smashed by Witts, and if we are setting Mirkov to have a long career an event like that can derail progress and confidence for years and years.
I think when assessing these things you've got to look past the highlights and see the grunt, Mirkov is a way off. At VFL level you get away with little hesitations while you stop/pause to think about what to do next, at AFL level which is 24x7 preparation and practice, it has to be reflex or else you're 10m behind the play.
Mirkov is learning what to do quite quickly, I can see SpecialK's influence, and he might be ahead of the curve, but he's a way off AFL standard, he's in the Ben Silvagni zone at the moment showing he can be good enough to compete but not yet at the standard.
I think fans are too obsessed with playing these guys early, more often than not for every one you find that stands up and is made by that experience, you break a dozen or two others!
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-09-2022
I just want Mirkov to compete, don't expect a win in the ruck but more sharing the workload so TDK isn't banged up.
We don't need a winning ruck to win this game imo..
Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast - Mav - 04-09-2022
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