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Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - capcom - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 08:17 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Our tackling and general pressure was very good, and goal kicking accuracy was once-a-season type stuff. But they had one less shot on goal, more I50's, and 7 more marks I50. They had enough chances IMO. I'm happy for the win, but not getting carried away just yet.
Who cares if you win. We were far more powerful.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - PaulP - 07-31-2021
I do feel a little bit bad performing like that against a team coached by Ratten. He's on his second, and one assumes, last, chance at senior level, and I reckon getting success at the Saints would be a pretty tough gig. Given what he's been through, some success would be nice.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - Milhanna13 - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 12:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I saw Plowman take a few bounces and stroll through the middle of the ground with no pressure for example.
And he turned it over!!
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 11:00 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:And he turned it over!!That was the bad Plowman, very laconic and capable of the horrendous every now and then.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - RiverRat - 07-31-2021
Just a mention for a couple of players who didn't trouble the statisticians too much - I thought Martin and (to a lesser extent) Owies were hard at it by putting on physical pressure in and around the forward line.
Martin, in particular, has the acceleration to do just that but it hasn't been something that he has done as effectively as he did n this game.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - RiverRat - 07-31-2021
(07-30-2021, 02:24 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:the main difference between this week (and all of our poor games or parts of games) is that the players made a concerted effort to run with intensity to pressure opponents with the ball and to pressure opponents in a position to receive a hand pass - instead of trying to corral an opponent without pressuring him or cruising along and hoping the opponent trips over his boot laces (e.g. SPS).As good as he can be, Weitering had little or no chance against Larkey last week and was similarly ineffective early against King until the rest of the team stood up to create pressure on the opponebts who were delivering the ball.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - LP - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 02:38 PM)RiverRat date Wrote:As good as he can be, Weitering had little or no chance against Larkey last week and was similarly ineffective early against King until the rest of the team stood up to create pressure on the opponebts who were delivering the ball.Under the current rules this will always be the case.
BigH benefits because we've guys running interference, Betts, Owies, SoJ.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - Gointocarlton - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 02:38 PM)RiverRat link Wrote:As good as he can be, Weitering had little or no chance against Larkey last week and was similarly ineffective early against King until the rest of the team stood up to create pressure on the opponebts who were delivering the ball.I thought his positioning against King for those first few goals was ordinary, one (the third maybe?) was a hold from memory. For the rest of the game, both he and Jone played him more from in front and King struggled. They removed his opportunity to run and jump at it.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - kruddler - 07-31-2021
(07-31-2021, 09:34 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I thought his positioning against King for those first few goals was ordinary, one (the third maybe?) was a hold from memory. For the rest of the game, both he and Jone played him more from in front and King struggled. They removed his opportunity to run and jump at it.Yep, basic positioning.
When you have a bloke that is taller, faster and can jump higher than you, you simply must play in front to have a chance. That's why I called for Jones to get switched onto him as he is better in all 3 of those categories compared to weiters.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda - madbluboy - 07-31-2021
Statistically Jones is actually the best one on one defender in the comp.