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Re: Review - LP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 03:45 AM)Hubba date Wrote:Why would we be any harder than Essendon ? Similar history and expectation.CheatsFC have a heavily pro-CheatsFC AFL Media, we are their natural enemy.
or Gold Coast and GWS who have big names leave to go home every year and little to no members?
GC and GWS have almost no media scrutiny in their local environment, they are barely recognised in the street.
Re: Review - LoveNavy - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 03:45 AM)Hubba link Wrote:Why would we be any harder than Essendon ? Similar history and expectation.
or Gold Coast and GWS who have big names leave to go home every year and little to no members?
Woosha might have some interesting views on the Dons comparison. I just hope we're getting good value from his appointment.
Re: Review - LP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 04:11 AM)LoveNavy date Wrote:Woosha might have some interesting views on the Dons comparison. I just hope we're getting good value from his appointment.Maybe what we are seeing is the start of Woosha's influence.
Re: Review - madbluboy - 06-08-2021
Caro reporting that the reason we seem to be in a hurry is because we want to get moving before the pies sack Buckley so we can secure Clarko first.
Re: Review - Gointocarlton - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 04:16 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Caro reporting that the reason we seem to be in a hurry is because we want to get moving before the pies sack Buckley so we can secure Clarko first.Or Ross Lyon
Re: Review - WASurfer - 06-08-2021
Would be interested to gauge opinions.....IF....and only asking the question here.....if Teague was moved on, in all honesty, what are the coaching options available to us? We surely don't go down the path of an untried senior coach again? You would only move Teague on if there's a better option.....outside of Clarkson or Lyon, who would we seriously consider? Is Brad Scott one that would be on the list?
Re: Review - PaulP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 04:31 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Would be interested to gauge opinions.....IF....and only asking the question here.....if Teague was moved on, in all honesty, what are the coaching options available to us? We surely don't go down the path of an untried senior coach again? You would only move Teague on if there's a better option.....outside of Clarkson or Lyon, who would we seriously consider? Is Brad Scott one that would be on the list?
That's been tried before - starting with Parkin through to Bolton, we have oscillated between young buck and old fart with resounding success. Parkin, Brittain, Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse, Bolton. Teague breaks the trend, but not for long it seems lol.
Bolton is a Clarkson mini me according to Jordan Lewis, and nobody liked the damage limitation style he employed. I watched Clarkson's presser after the Blues Hawks game. Obviously taking a sneaky cheap shot at Teague, he said something like "putting speed on the ball is good if you have composure, but if you don't, it's a problem" (I don't remember the exact words). How much composure do we have ? Close to zero. Therefore Clarkson will play just like the Hawks do now and just like Bolton did. And so for that matter will Lyon IMHO.
Re: Review - LP - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 04:31 AM)WASurfer date Wrote:Would be interested to gauge opinions.....IF....and only asking the question here.....if Teague was moved on, in all honesty, what are the coaching options available to us? We surely don't go down the path of an untried senior coach again? You would only move Teague on if there's a better option.....outside of Clarkson or Lyon, who would we seriously consider? Is Brad Scott one that would be on the list?Lyon isn't really an option, he is Malthouse like in that he's taken the same game plan to the different venues and built a list to suit, that would mean throwing out much of what we've got. Our list of skinnies does not suit a Lyon game plan and never will. But I suppose if you think what we've got is mostly worthless then maybe it's feasible we need another rebuild.
Clarkson is more likely to make use of what we've got, would it be better use of what we've got, that is hard to say. Would he have any real pull to change club culture, well Malthouse didn't why would Clarkson. The real drivers of change in the Dawks club culture was initially Ian Dicker, then Jason Dunstall as CEO who basically prevented Kennett from laying waste to all the progress!
Anyway, if it's a Clarkson or Lyon driving club culture, why do we even need that, it's that a matter for the Board and Executive?
Is changing the coach fundamentally the Board and Executive obfuscating responsibility for cultural change? I'd suggest what Dicker and Dunstall did at the Dawks was the exact opposite, they could have folded under Kennett's pressure and Clarkson might have been kyboshed, it was sticking the coarse under those pressures that got the Dawks where they wanted to be!
Re: Review - Gointocarlton - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 04:31 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Would be interested to gauge opinions.....IF....and only asking the question here.....if Teague was moved on, in all honesty, what are the coaching options available to us? We surely don't go down the path of an untried senior coach again? You would only move Teague on if there's a better option.....outside of Clarkson or Lyon, who would we seriously consider? Is Brad Scott one that would be on the list?To reiterate, if they knife Teague I'm done.
Candidates
Hardwick - Yes (employed but we must ask the question with an intent to make a serious play)
Clarkson - Yes with the aim to groom a young assistant
Lyon - Yes with the aim to groom a young assistant
B Scott - No, seems to have checked out of coaching but is the right type of "kent" our group needs IMO
Worsfold - No (although seems to have proven he can hand over to young bloke who is having an impact)
Leppa - No but as an assistant or Footy Manager Yes
Voss - No but as an assistant or Footy Manager Yes
Re: Review - PaulP - 06-08-2021
I think Ross is more a re-stump, re-wire, re-plumb kind of guy lol. No rebuilds for him.