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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - Blue Moon - 05-31-2021
What can you say that hasn't been said before. Winners win because they win, losers lose because they lose. We don't play with passion. There is ability and skill to burn, but who really wants to win. I would be playing Dow, SPS, O'Brien and Kennedy next week and in a decent run of games, in place of Owies, Cottrell, Gibbons and Casboult, not for any other reason than that they were high draft picks and they have got to pi$$ or get off the pot. It is time to see what they can actually do. Murphy has five or six games to his 300th, but once there, it is time to say goodbye. And the question is whether Eddie is going to win us a Premiership. We can't go back, we have to go forward.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 05-31-2021
I read on SEN that Franklin could come under MRO scrutiny for his high hit on Nic Newman.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/30/watch-or-franklin-to-face-mro-scrutiny-for-high-bump/
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - laj - 05-31-2021
(05-30-2021, 02:14 PM)Macca37 link Wrote:This is our reality.
Too many players lacking the football skills to play at AFL level pressure.
Too many players lacking the mental toughness to see out a full game. Conservatively, over a full game, we are currently giving up approximately twenty minutes free time to the opposition to kick multiple goals.
Will I be satisfied if we win another 3 or 4 games? No way.
I will be satisfied when we get the list we were promised 6 years ago, one that is ready and willing to make a real challenge for a place in the 8.
At the moment we supporters grasp on to any scrap of good play in a desperate attempt to remain positive.
As I've said before: this is what a failed rebuild looks like.
Think it is too hard to do such a big rebuild. Too many spots to cover given draft picking can be a flukey exercise. It's been a reasonable rebuild but still too many holes. We are too competitive for it to be a failed rebuild. Much of the issues are mental more than physical. We can dominate good sides, often for 85% of the game, then have a 15 min lapse that screws everything.
We need the willingness to defend alot more when things do go our way. It's the way Teague wants it too given the mighty spray at half time against Hawthorn on the issue. We showed we could defend well after that. Players just don't have the drive, hunger, motivation to want to do it consistently and that's what kills. Problem is we need to dominate for 90% of a game just to have a chance.
Those opposition run-ons happened in both the men's and women's games, who did it near every game during their season, so what is pervading through the club.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - WASurfer - 05-31-2021
PP....he's got history for the head high stuff. I thought at the time it was a dangerous one.
Once again we let a perfect opportunity slip. Could've won that game and set ourselves up perfectly for a shot at an undermanned WCE this weekend and be perched just outside the 8 leading into the bye. But not to be. Pretty much different game, same result. Too much left to too few. Glaringly obvious that we have one of the shallowest midfields in the competition....Cripps, Walsh, Curnow and then not much else...after all these years of drafting young midfielders. Again, terrible foot skills when the game was on the line....how is it possible in this day and age that we can have such poor kicking efficiency in games? Do we not practice that sort of basic sh#t at training? And just dumb footy at times during games....Docherty might've been finding some reasonable form but some of his brain fades have killed us week after week.
The SCG is a tiny ground but at times it looked like they had 25 blokes out there they had so much space. As someone else pointed out, we can look pretty good when we've got the ball but when the opposition have it, we are terrible and teams just pick us apart at ease.
I love the way Saad plays...he gets it and runs with it and is usually very efficient when he kicks it. But as a pure defender, he's not that good. If he was matched up on Heeney, as it looked, that was a terrible move and it proved to be the difference. I'll get howled down but I think we actually missed Plowman in that game.
Teague seems bereft of any plan B in the coaching box....at least that's how it looks. It might be you could argue lack of personnel but it's getting frustrating as a fan and a viewer when the camera goes to him and he's sitting there with a blank expression on his face and seemingly no emotion. He doesn't have to smash a hole in the wall or destroy a phone, but give us something.
We are a Jekyll and Hyde team.....blistering to watch at some points but absolutely f#cking hopeless at other times....unfortunately it's the latter for more of the time.
Hard to see what changes we can make from here on in? Hope that Charlie gets fit enough to play again this year.....hope that McGovern gets fit and finds form....hope that with a few more games under their belt, TDK and Martin, Williams etc get better.....hope like hell that Walsh, Cripps, Harry or Weitering don't get injured.....or just hope that some of the younger guys in the VFL team do enough to warrant a game and then show some form when they do get a chance? That's a lot of "fingers crossed".
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - LP - 05-31-2021
Franklin has a habit of turning his shoulder blade into somebody's face, like using that part of his back exonerates him from a bump charge.
Is that what he did?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - LP - 05-31-2021
Across a few forums I notice fans raging on Pittonet, as you know I'm not his biggest fan and want De Koning accelerated as quickly as possible, but it's a bit unfair on Pittonet this week as I thought he was OK.
Further Pittonet was really done over in the umpiring, particularly by Umpire 17 whoever that is! Sinclair jumped into Pittonet multiple times using his spikes up high with his leg out into Pittonet's gut, and when Pittonet shoved out his arm to defend against it the umpire penalised Pittonet for blocking, it was bullcrap call and it happened more than once. At one bounce the ball came down almost on Sinclair's head and he stuck out a leg to stop Pittonet, and yet Pittonet was penalised for blocking!
We had a lot of talls out there at the weekend, they all at times looked confused and were getting in each others way, this didn't help Pittonet, De Koning or Casboult! But I thought the use of Casboult in D50 allowed Jones and Weitering to go about their work, so it partially worked, probably where it fell down was Casboult is only playing at 80% and not clunking marks.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 05-31-2021
(05-31-2021, 01:32 AM)LP link Wrote:Franklin has a habit of turning his shoulder blade into somebody's face, like using that part of his back exonerates him from a bump charge.
Is that what he did?
On the link I posted in reply 101 above, there's a twitter account with the footage.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - tonyo - 05-31-2021
(05-31-2021, 01:36 AM)LP link Wrote:Across a few forums I notice fans raging on Pittonet, as you know I'm not his biggest fan and want De Koning accelerated as quickly as possible, but it's a bit unfair on Pittonet this week as I thought he was OK.
Further Pittonet was really done over in the umpiring, particularly by Umpire 17 whoever that is! Sinclair jumped into Pittonet multiple times using his spikes up high with his leg out into Pittonet's gut, and when Pittonet shoved out his arm to defend against it the umpire penalised Pittonet for blocking, it was bullcrap call and it happened more than once. At one bounce the ball came down almost on Sinclair's head and he stuck out a leg to stop Pittonet, and yet Pittonet was penalised for blocking!
We had a lot of talls out there at the weekend, they all at times looked confused and were getting in each others way!
Team selection this week was really bad. Too many talls - SCG is not that sort of ground.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 05-31-2021
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/05/31/questions-asked-of-blues-leaders-big-money-recruit-after-four-costly-lapses/
David King goes for scapegoats as per usual, then provides a sweetener in the end :
King remains confident Carlton can become a top eight side if they rectify their defensive frailties.
“It’s not really a David Teague issue, it’s a full leadership issue situation at Carlton that needs to be corrected,” he said.
“I can see them next year being a top four or top six team.
“You’ve got an All-Australian full-back (Jacob Weitering), All-Australian full-forward (Harry McKay), you’ve got an All-Australian young midfielder (Sam Walsh), you’ve got Patrick Cripps, you’ve got the tools.
“Get the rest of it right, get the attitude right and it will come together. I’ve got full faith in it.”
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney - WASurfer - 05-31-2021
LP....the decision at the opening bounce was bewildering too. Both ruckman jump, both have one knee up and Pittonet gets pegged for blocking...Sydney goal. If they're going to pay those then is there any point in even jumping?