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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - LP - 05-16-2021
(05-16-2021, 09:03 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:We're the worst pressure side in the comp. Champion data backs this up.The stats are never defined the way people think, and not always defined or used the same way by all clubs, so you have to be careful when comparing club comments against a 3rd party service.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - madbluboy - 05-16-2021
(05-16-2021, 09:56 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Thanks. I don't suppose you have a link ? I'd be keen to see them myself.
I saw it on TV but I can try to find.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 05-16-2021
(05-16-2021, 10:02 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:I saw it on TV but I can try to find.
That's ok. No need to waste your time. I'm sure one of the episodes of Pure Footy has covered this.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - madbluboy - 05-16-2021
(05-16-2021, 09:59 PM)LP link Wrote:The stats are never defined the way people think, and not always defined or used the same way by all clubs, so you have to be careful when comparing club comments against a 3rd party service.
What are you saying?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - LP - 05-16-2021
(05-16-2021, 10:05 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:What are you saying?For example, what is a bare minimum pressure act in your opinion, approaching a player within 5m, 3m or a tackle?
Perhaps you've got defenders that need to run and jump at the footy, so they are coached to hang back a bit, or a defender that likes body on body you stand them shoulder to shoulder, those get categorised differently.
When does a pressure act count, how far away from the ball is the act defined, are your players coached to move early or late? There is no right answer, it's just a team system.
Secondly, most stats depend on team tactics, play a long kicking game and your team has less of everything. Win the inside clearances and your club is probably low on tackles, lose clearances and the same may be high!
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - madbluboy - 05-16-2021
Richmond have been the pressure kings for the last few years, Hawthorn before that.
Conclusion:
High Pressure = Success
Low Pressure = Us
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - PaulP - 05-16-2021
Bolton used to talk incessantly about being defined by pressure. I wonder if Teague still carries with him the mindset of a forwards coach ? Lots of high scoring, everything else a mere afterthought ?
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - capcom - 05-16-2021
Keith Miller's wartime exploits were to give him a greater sense of perspective when he returned to the sports field. When asked many years later by Michael Parkinson, about pressure in cricket, Miller responded: "Pressure is a Messerschmitt up your arse, playing cricket is not".
I've never forgotten that and it's equally relevant today.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - cookie2 - 05-16-2021
(05-16-2021, 10:25 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:Richmond have been the pressure kings for the last few years, Hawthorn before that.
Conclusion:
High Pressure = Success
Low Pressure = Us
High pressure to me reflects the real desire to win. Being able to really apply that pressure in critical periods of the game and to resist opposition pressure when it is applied is what the really professional teams can do.
Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne - Professer E - 05-16-2021
I'd like to know Murphy's pressure stats.