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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Slowhand - 03-26-2021
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;D Teague said in his presser that LOB was stiff to be left out.
Doesn't that fill you with a joyful prospect next week.
I've just had a good look at our playing list and to be honest we havn't
got much left in the shed that are fit or match hardened. We would all love to Have DE K or Charlie up and running but it aint gunna happen for a while.
Against the Shockers my changes are:
OUT - LEVI, Williamson, Newnes
(should be dropped but wont be) Plowman, Murph
INS - Oscar, Stocker, Kennedy
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 03:04 AM)laj date Wrote:like to see blokes start playing in their best positions. Setterfield into the guts, Williamson onto a wing SPS into the midfield, Murphy not as a small forward. Otherwise it's no point playing any of them as you're only going to get half the value you should.Yep, it's no coincidence when Teague got the gig it came from putting blokes back into their traditional positions.
I'm quite over the concept of the "Swiss Army Player", to me that signals a weak coaching panel!
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Lods - 03-26-2021
The problem probably is that there's not enough room in the 'player's best positions' to fit them all into those spots.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - LP - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 03:25 AM)Lods date Wrote:The problem probably is that there's not enough room in the 'player's best positions' to fit them all into those spots.Then just pick the best one, and put the others in the magoos until they earn a spot!
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 03:26 AM)LP link Wrote:Then just pick the best one, and put the others in the magoos until they earn a spot!
The best one changes quarter by quarter.
Its no wonder we are struggling. We have so few strengths that when the rules change our team is disadvantaged. Contrast that with the pies. They have very few players that are one trick ponies like ours so when the rules change their players can adjust quicker whilst we have to turnover the other bunch of retreads.
I.e. plowman. In a team defense he is rolled gold. The ball flies around so quick now team defenses are gone, and now you need blokes who are individually both able to play tall and short, are quick and agile, and use the ball well. Plowman is a restricted type who uses his nous to play well. In the 3rd last night he was pivotal to keeping the ball forward but when the structure ahead of the ball fell apart he went from chocolates to boiled lollies.
That was a by product of the pies switching to a more run and gun style again, but this is the game now.
Evolve or become yesterday's hero. You know who'd go well under the current rules? Blokes we delisted like Nick Graham.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Lods - 03-26-2021
I've just had a look at Paddy Dow's 2019 season
Bolton was sacked after round 11.
Up until that point Dow was averaging close to 20 possessions a game
After that he struggled to reach double figures....until a bit of a flurry towards the end.
It may have been an injury but he kept playing.
Now we know that Teague made the decision to move some of the older more mature players back into their positions of strength which left some of the younger players out in the cold.
Since that 2019 season Dow has had a fight to get back in the side.
The question has to be...Do we have too many players for certain positions at the cost of a lack of strength in other positions?
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 03:04 AM)laj link Wrote:like to see blokes start playing in their best positions. Setterfield into the guts, Williamson onto a wing SPS into the midfield, Murphy not as a small forward. Otherwise it's no point playing any of them as you're only going to get half the value you should.Will to win and willingness to put the body on the line and take a hit for the team, too many blokes wanting the easy kick and refusing
Biggest issue is the will to win. We don't have enough of it. We match every side we play alot, top sides or not, rarely copping a hiding, but we don't win enough. We only fully commit at our choosing, not bringing it in uncompromisingly every week. we tend to often play to the other side's level, good or $hit. Sadly, it's been out culture for 20 years and takes alot of time to turn that around. We are doing way better than in 2018-19 but unless we bring that total commitment every week we'll lose games that we should be winning more often than we should. That's more frustrating than when we were $hit as we expect more.
Once again our season starts in round 3. We have the worst round 2 record ever i'm sure. Pump up, show a heap of promise in round 1, going down after a close effort, then we have a big letdown and play like crap in round 2, starting like slugs. You can imagine we'll fire up next week as we did round 3 against Geelong last year..
to do the 1%ers. You have old blokes in Pendlebury and Sidebottom on the deck fighting for the ball and our young blokes watching waiting for the likes of Walsh to get it to them.
About 5 players need dropping so they get with the program....
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 01:59 AM)JonDorotich link Wrote:To this end, I watched Cripps, Newnes and Setterfield closely and all three don’t track back.Now that just MUST be under instruction for whatever whacky reason is in Teague's head. They wouldnt get a game otherwise.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 03:42 AM)Lods link Wrote:I've just had a look at Paddy Dow's 2019 seasonToo many players suited to the easy positions and not enough where we are getting beat up....
Bolton was sacked after round 11.
Up until that point Dow was averaging close to 20 possessions a game
After that he struggled to reach double figures....until a bit of a flurry towards the end.
It may have been an injury but he kept playing.
Now we know that Teague made the decision to move some of the older more mature players back into their positions of strength which left some of the younger players out in the cold.
Since that 2019 season Dow has had a fight to get back in the side.
The question has to be...Do we have too many players for certain positions at the cost of a lack of strength in other positions?
Seem to have a lot of players suited to the wing or rebounding but not enough physical types or who want to play close and defend.
Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 03-26-2021
(03-26-2021, 03:43 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Will to win and willingness to the body on the line and take a hit for the team, too many blokes wanting the easy kick and refusing
to do the 1%ers. You have old blokes in Pendlebury and Sidebottom on the deck fighting for the ball and our young blokes watching waiting for the likes of Walsh to get it to them.
About 5 players need dropping so they get with the program....
According to the AFL website, the one percenters went our way 60/43.