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Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - Thryleon - 08-06-2020

(08-06-2020, 02:32 AM)deags link Wrote:We had Bolten coaching for the future. Selections for the future. Positioning players for the future. Most supporters weren't happy with that. We were losing and nearly all of our players, senior one's included, have never been part of a successful team.
Coaching and selecting for the future is fine when you have a culture and players that have seen success. Or if you realise success in a reasonable time frame. But our club is devoid of success and we need to be chasing whatever wins we can get. We need to be putting our best side out there every week, maybe rotating new players in and out, but unless injuries dictate, only 1 or 2 of the new guys each week.
The players don't know how to be successful. This shambolic season has allowed them to start to experience a couple of wins and they should be doing everything in the club's power to continue that.

Yep.

Thing is, we should be able to cater for both future and now.  Thats why Bolton got the lemon sars.  Too forward looking.

Play your best lineup.  If that involves a kid pressing for selection, or who will be better than your other options, give them a go.  Rotate them through the team, and gradually build up their responsibility until they show they can be a 24/7 footballer.

Not play a lochie Obrien or Paddy Dow until their void of form, confidence and then show ability well below their capability.

Build it up.  We are very fortunate.  We have a batch of ready to go replacements, who have played about 50 senior games of footy at very young ages, and we dont have to rush them in.  They can rotate through the team and understudy for our experienced blokes and hopefully develop an edge to their game.


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - LP - 08-06-2020

(08-06-2020, 02:55 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Thing is, we should be able to cater for both future and now.  Thats why Bolton got the lemon sars.  Too forward looking.
Yes, I tend to agree.

I think it is now obvious that the club wanted some demonstration from BB of progress. They unequivocally put him under the pump to demonstrate something, some wins for example, and he couldn't deliver in the few weeks he was aware of being under that scrutiny.

The fact that Teague took over, and I admit while changing how players were used he did deliver a result, certainly says something that BB couldn't or wouldn't.

I'm not entering into any debates regarding the ethics of this, but it is pretty clear in retrospect it played some part in his demise.


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - crashlander - 08-08-2020

Team still hasn't been named. Sad


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - Slowhand - 08-08-2020

WTF is going on with the Teams ....



Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - townsendcalling - 08-08-2020

In DeKoning, Fisher, Cotrell
Out Moore, McKay, Cunningham


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - kruddler - 08-08-2020

Teams make sense......kinda

Fisher in for injured Cunners
TDK in for Moore who is dropped.

Cottrell in for injured Harry.......huh?!


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 08-08-2020

(08-08-2020, 08:29 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:In DeKoning, Fisher, Cotrell
Out Moore, McKay, Cunningham
Finally we get to see TDK and Cottrell, I hope they throw themselves at the contest like they have done in the 2's.
H and Cunningham injured yet again is a real worry.


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - townsendcalling - 08-08-2020

Re Cotrell for McKay: No Silvagni, no McGovern..... no real alternative, plus it’s going to be wet. Better to have soldiers on the ground than in the air.


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - rocky - 08-08-2020

(08-08-2020, 08:50 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Re Cotrell for McKay: No Silvagni, no McGovern..... no real alternative, plus it’s going to be wet. Better to have soldiers on the ground than in the air.
Very good point. Wet will be better for us I think. Pick a team to best utilise the conditions.


Re: Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast - Baggers - 08-08-2020

Gee, when you look at the two sides on paper... gulp!

Looking forward to seeing how Cottrell & TDK do.

Seems to me that it is Fisher for Cuningham... that's okay as Fisher will work all day though he doesn't have the deft touch that 'cameo' Cuningham does. TDK for H makes sense. And Cottrell for Moore makes sense, in fact Cottrell's dog would be a reasonable swap for Moore (not to denigrate Cottrell himself  Big Grin )